If it is confirmed that the servers are run by volunteers, I would be happy to 
contribute. I note their silence over past months. Running a server here is of 
little help.

Again, the Comcast funding involvement is unexplained. If they are funding the 
open vehicle, then they could pay.

I appreciate the links, but the point stands. Better I make the criticism than 
others less favourably disposed.

As for your router, it should be possible to restore it via a serial-usb cable, 
as I am sure you know. Have you tried to bring up telnet, like OpenWRT? That 
mechanism may be present, but I do not know what the default IP address would 
be.

I have posted td-stab and hub rrul graphs, but post is large and has gone for 
moderation.




On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:27, Sebastian Moeller <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> I am a bit grumpy right now, since it seems as if my router just died on me 
> (trying an "emergency" flash to 3.10.6).
> 
> On Aug 14, 2013, at 23:05 , Fred Stratton <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Nothing is mentioned in the MIT talk.
>> 
>> I f the servers are not available, so work cannot be duplicated,
> 
>       The buffer bloat effort is mostly driven by enthusiasm not monetary 
> gains. So as I understand it netperf servers are run by volunteers out of 
> their own pocket. Given that a number of ISPs have maximum transfer volumes 
> by months I think it actually is amazing that there are some server available 
> at all. I think that no one would complain and rather support it if you would 
> volunteer to set up a netperf server to remedy your observed lack of 
> openness, allowing others to test against your router. :)
> 
>> and the meaning of terms used is not revealed anywhere, the project ceases 
>> to be Open.
> 
>       Now have a look at 
> https://github.com/tohojo/netperf-wrapper/blob/master/tests/rrul.conf, and 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differentiated_services you can get a pretty 
> good overview of what the diffent line colors per plot actually mean. My take 
> is for the ADSL encapsulation tests all that matters is the average and the 
> fact that is is averaged from 4 flows, so mentally multiplying the y-axis by 
> 4 gives an idea about the total bandwidth used. The interesting stuff happens 
> in the ping RTT plots, which you want to be as flat as possible with 
> preferably no big increase once the TCP loads start.
> 
> 
> Best Regards
>       Sebastian
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 20:50, Fred Stratton <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> If it is the 'What is wrong with wifi talk, the I have found that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 19:21, Fred Stratton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> UK and German rrul server address would be helpful, on the basis that I 
>>>> shall be using them to test ADSL based configurations. For whatever reason 
>>>> I could not access the Yurt resident one.  (I thought that everyone who 
>>>> owned a Yurt maintained a breeding herd of goats or alpaca.)
>>>> 
>>>> You have given many talks. A link to the MIT talk would help.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 19:07, Dave Taht <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> We have insufficient funding to maintain rrul servers everywhere they are 
>>>>> needed. There are servers in Germany and england if they are closer to 
>>>>> you? I can let you (or anyone else that asks) know the addresses 
>>>>> privately... I will probably add one in Japan soon and we continue to 
>>>>> look for a hosting service that will actively help....
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2013 11:01 AM, "Fred Stratton" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> If the legends are not explained, the graphs cannot be interpreted.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A list of working servers would help, also.
>>>>> 
>>>>> At present there appears to be only one in the observable universe.
>>>>> 
>>>>> fq_codel simplest.qos 6000 down 700 up htb.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <fq_simplest_htb_8000_700a.png>
>>>>> 
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