Pempho's arguments are valid .I do not think it will be fair whether on loser or winner the fact is we need to watch and play competitive games. Kingsley Pierre Gwaza Globe internet ADL HOUSE CITY CENTRE LL Phone 01925004/01776341 Mobile 08202587/09599563 www.globemw.net www.globecompu.com
----- Original Message ----- From: Pempho Kanjadza To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: {CEZOBAL} Re: Chairman Trophy games Following the games this evening, yesterday, blazers and trojans happened to meet at the training session. After carefully analysing today's situation, we reached to a decision that only one game be played today, that is Blazers against Trojans.. As for the other game, it has to be rescheduled and can be played in the midst of the week right there at ABC. This decision was made coz of the following: 1) Time factor - we all know how our games are played and it btakes longer than scheduled or expected. So having two games in 3 or less hours didn't seem realistic. 2) As scheduled, the loser is to play against Mimbulu - guys realistically, with the time given, in how long a time would you expect guys to regain there strength and be ready to play yet against another strong side like Mimbulu and having in mind kuti its a working day and people are already tired from work..... You would atleast agree with me that some mof these points need careful consideration. If we want this Trophy to be competitive and no team having an easy win over the other, then I suggest that today only one game be played and thats Trojans vs Blazers. If I remember correctly, you said its gonna be double elimination yah...meaning each team would have about two games played to qualify? Stand to be corrected... If its so then we should try not to take advantage as would be the case if three games are played tonight. Let the teams not have excuse of their loss due to tiredness or fixture problems rather blame it on their part that they did not perform when they were all fit and ready for the game. I need your suggestions guys.... A Chidaya, A Sule, A Gwaza, A Russel, A Kaunda Mulipo, nanga a Mpho.....ndi ena nonse tiyankhuleni.... ----- Original Message ---- From: Russel Makonyola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 12:01:17 AM Subject: {CEZOBAL} Re: Chairman Trophy games Mr sule, I most defenet, feel your concern and i must say they are legit concerns,concerining the price issues, personally I feel bad about the prices too, and currently that is what we are trying to talk about, being part of ABC and also loving the Game as i do, it makes me sad, because of the image that ABC has created in many peoples minds and also how we really haven't assisted the development of basketball in the central region as we used to do, but my hope and prayer is that out of the talks that we are having with the ABC director, things just might change a little. You also talked about what will happen when ABC will be playing in the league, if a team is playing with ABC it will not be charged, and if on that particular day other games are also scheduled they wont be any charge at all, if we are playing with a team, and the game is during night time, then ABC will assist in transport. Anyways my point, for whatever it is worth, is just tryn to let you guys now that we understand how you guys feel, and we are applying our best efforts to try and sort some of the things, and God willing maybe they will change. --- On Thu, 10/16/08, Daud Suleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Daud Suleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: {CEZOBAL} Re: Chairman Trophy games To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 4:20 PM Helebati *** guys, if you seriously think we cant manage 5pm then we can change the fixture, i hope that ABC will not cut the lights mid way through a game**** Trojan V Blazers @ 530pm. i picked 2 points from your email and here my little explanation: 1)Games going to ABC WE initially scheduled to have the games at Silver Court but as you may be aware Rocky is getting engaged on Sat and as such Trijans made a request to have their games shifted from Saturday afternoon so that they could attend the Chinkhoswe. This being a tournament and not a league, it would have meant that games be halted mid way on Sat, if Trojans were still in contention, so as to allow them to attend the chinkhoswe. Trojans proposed that they start on Friday and they proposed to play at ABC, we asked them to facilitate that with ABC and let us know what ABC said. ABC then said we should paid 6,000. 2)Who pays? Blazers and Mimbulu could have said Trojans should foot the bill since they are the ones who instituted the change of venue in the first place but we decided that every team should foot a 2,000. The tournament is a CEZOBAL event, all teams make up CEZOBAL of which ABC is also a paid up member. I also asked the same question about 3,000 per game when we pay 700 per night to play in the gym and i was advised that "Training" is different from "games" and the whole day wil cost 40,000 Mind you, BASMAL paid ABC 80,000 for hosting the international games earlier this year.Personally, i dont agree with these charges and the attitude that ABC or who ever is making these money making decisions.. The question come in thta what will happen when ABC starts playing their league games? Will they let other teams come to play at ABC free of charge or we will keep paying for us of the gym? How does ABC benefit from these 6,000 or 40,000 they are collecting form basketball people? How is ABC contributing to the social needs of the people around their college i,e,basketball players? Since ABC basketball team has gone down under in terms of skill and strength, things have changed dramatically at ABC. I remember they used to provide transport for other teams during the night friendlies when their team was good. I personally has trained with ABC, given transport money and even sneakers!! The first ever sneaker i wore was from ABC because they had a good team back then and they always wanted good ballers around their team. but today, they are like milking back from us! Lord forbid. Its high time we make a stand and move forward. No wonder we chose to play at Silver and we shall continue to play there. We may spend days talking about ABC but this is a wake up call for all of us to get OUR OWN GYM and then we can make up our own decisions. anything is possible if we can get up and work together to get our own facility...but our mindsets and attitude right now cannot allow us to even try and do something towards that goal. this then challenges all of you to seriously consider how you can help CEZOBAL to get an indoor facility with which we can use to play games. finally, please contribute to the FLOODLIGHTS projects as we are still looking for funds!! Sule. On 10/16/08, Chidaya, Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think something is wrong here. Pempho has a very good point about the > time. I see some games being forfeited here honestly. Plus I am starting > to get worried with how ABC management is doing all it can to put brakes > to the development of the game in Lilongwe. I maybe sounding a little > callous here but come on guys; it's high time somebody said something. > We appreciate ABC providing the GYM to us and all but the charging > CEZOBAL six grand for three hours is just too commercial. We use the Gym > every night for a grand (this is from last week, it used to be K700 not > so long ago. I don't know what formula has been used this time around > for the service to jump from K700 to K2000 for an hour. All this money > for three hour light bills and court maintenance. Has anyone heard of > Cooperate social responsibility? Otherwise ABC management needs to come > out clear in terms of the agenda they are pushing. Business or > supporting the youth to improve their basketball skills with the best > resources this country has to offer. > I stand to be corrected, but I also find the transfer of the cost to > teams participating on the day not in order. Don't get me wrong, I do > understand that one way or the other somebody has to pay for the court > usage, unfortunately in this case, it has to be the teams that have to > shoulder the cost on behalf CEZOBAL for a CEZOBAL event. I am attacking > the people that came up with the idea, or the amount of money involved, > I am just worried about the who principle and precedence > > Herbert Chidaya > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Daud Suleman > Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 4:35 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: {CEZOBAL} Re: Chairman Trophy gams > > > Friday games will have to start at 5 because ABC has put up conditions > on our usage of the court. there will be 10 minutes grace after which > a forfeit will occur. > > We are expected to be out of the gym by 8pm and no later. If games > start at 530 or 6pm, we cannot afford to play 2 games with 4 quarters > each. > > Each team playing tomorrow has to contribute 2,000 towards the bill > that ABC has charged CEZOBAL. ABC says games played in the gym will > cost 6,000 and if we plan to use the gym the whole day it will be > 40,000. > > For friday games, Blazers, Mimbulu and Trojan each will contribute > 2,000. > > 5pm, Blazers Vs Trojans (Blazers please remember to bring your > registration fees as well before the game starts) > > Nzotheka. > > Sule > > > > On 10/16/08, Pempho Kanjadza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> daud >> Can you make it 5:30 please.... its still a working day and mostly > anthu >> timaweluka 5 o'clock. >> May you consider that please. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Daud Suleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [email protected] >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 12:25:01 PM >> Subject: {CEZOBAL} Chairman Trophy gams >> >> >> Fellas, >> >> The Chairmans Trophy kicks into action tomorrow Friday 1th Oct at ABC >> from 5 pm with Trojans playing Capital Blazers. 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