I'd like to suggest starting a list of reasons which might get a
person/domain banned from this list (if there isn't already one). Starting
with trolls like this.
-Cameron
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Cameron Childress
ElliptIQ Inc.
p.770.460.7277.232
f.770.460.0963
> -----Original Message-----
> From: James Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 11:31 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Very OT: Read if you're bored, it's not that important (was
> Re: OT BUT CRITICALLY IMPORTANT...)
>
>
> I, for one, think this is a very important topic that should be of
> interest of any IT worker in the US.
>
> There are a number of academics, economists, etc. who have studied the
> so-called "IT worker shortage" conclude that it is basiclly bogus. Why
> else would Microsoft, Cisco, etc. by their own statistics, hire less
> than 5% of people applying for IT positions? Only about 20% of resumes
> for applicants for programming and other IT positions even get
> reviewed. If the applicant is over 35, or doesn't have exactly the
> right combination of buzzwords on his resume, it won't even get past
> automated screening. It is precisely the most experienced workers that
> these companies do not want to hire. Programmers over age 40 who lose
> their jobs average 1 1/2 years on unemployment before finding another
> position. Industry lobbiests fought like hell to supress a requirement
> that the IT Worker shortage be verified by the GAO (General Accounting
> Office) before taking effect.
>
> Here is a link to an editorial in the Washington Post that may open some
> eyes:
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52767-2000Sep11.html
>
> Shortage My Ass! The H1b bill is basically an industry sponsored
> measure to repress IT salaries and fatten the campaign coffers of your
> congressmen.
>
> JJB
>
> Billy Cravens wrote:
>
> > ...<CF_CLIP>..... It's not a "decimation"; it's simply filling
> positions that
> > are unfilled, and unfillable by the "native" talent in our country.
>
> ...............<CF_CLIP>........................
>
> > I'll admit, there may be some merit to the argument that prices may be
> > driven down. Not necessarily, and certainly not $30,000 a year.
>
> ...............<CF_CLIP>........................
>
> >....... It's inevitable. The only reason salaries
> > are so high now is that there's not enough people to go around,
>
> And because most companies will absolutely not hire anyone over 40,
> eliminating a huge percentage of qualified workers.
>
> > Once the industry meets demand, then the market will correct itself.
>
> An H1B visa circumvents real market forces by preventing workers from
> competitively shopping their skills to the highest offer, regardless of
> how skillful they are.
>
> > Afraid of losing money? Stay good enough that you don't have to.
>
> My advice, Don't get any older!
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