IPs for debugging can be set and unset with a session variable timing out
:-)
Can't answer the other question - would anger my partners :-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 9:17 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: self-serv Hosting for CF'ers
Does sandbox security in CF Enterprise confine debugging IP's to only a
certain web site or are they always server-wide? I've only run CF
Professional, which is why I ask. If the debugging IP addresses are
server-wide, as with CF Pro, then this would be a _very_ dangerous thing to
allow in a shared environment. Imagine Joe Developer dials in from home
through Earthlink to do a bit of work on a site. He enables the dial-up IP
address of his local POP, then never toggles (removes) that IP. Every
caller assigned that IP address would now be able to view debugging info for
_every_ site on the machine.
Which brings up a question I've always had regarding shared CF hosting...
Although CF Enterprise is the only package that's really safe in a shared
environment, because of the sandbox security, how can web hosts actually
afford to purchase a license of Enterprise (at $4300+) for every server?
The numbers just don't add up, especially for cheap (say $30 and under)
hosting. Of course, you could cut corners and run CF Pro. But without
sandbox security, that could be a nightmare.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Beer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 6:30 PM
Subject: RE: self-serv Hosting for CF'ers
> ahh - debugging toggle - that's one I hadn't thought of!
>
> Scheduled tasks are no problem - we can check and see if any are running
out
> of control, etc, and kill them as needed. We're also planning o allow
> self-registry of CFX tags and com objects. They'll have to be run through
a
> com wrapper that we provide, though.. just to maintain security and
> stability..
>
> Can I add your name to my list? I'll be sending notices as things
develop.
> Probably not more than once a month..
>
> Thanks for responding!
>
> Jeff
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toby Tremayne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 8:08 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: self-serv Hosting for CF'ers
>
>
> Just something I've been seething about recently - access to be able to
add
> your own scheduled tasks, specifications for the cold fusion custom tags
> directories, and toggle debugging info etc would be nice
>
> Toby
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2000 4:19 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: self-serv Hosting for CF'ers
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> On the CF-Talk list there have been many threads asking about web site
> hosting companies that offer self-service (create your own domains, data
> sources, etc).
>
> Would anyone mind if I posted a list of questions on here, basically a
short
> survey, asking what kinds of features people would like to see in such a
> service? I'm considering starting such a business and would really
> appreciate some input.
>
> Some of the things I think are important to offer are:
>
> Unlimited domains, one flat rate.
> 200 megs disk space included.
> Two servers for each account - one for testing and staging, one for
> production (disk space shared across both).
> Automated DNS setup for domains, including MX records and aliases.
> Unlimited mail accounts (domain) with unlimited users per (imap and pop3).
> Maybe offering shared Exchange Server accounts (domain-based).
> No charge for ODBC/OLE DB connections - unlimited.
> MS SQL Server DBs created on demand - no extra charge for two dbs.
> Unlimited FTP accounts to any directories in your area with unlimited
users.
> Register your own CFX and COM objects. We would require they be called
> using a generic wrapper that we provide.
>
> All controlled fully through a web-based control panel. SQL Server users
> would use Enterprise Manager for DB access.
>
> The pricing model we've thought about would be all of the above is covered
> under a flat rate, with the only extra charges being for extra disk space
> (200 megs included) and high-bandwidth sites (don't have a cost-point for
> bandwidth yet). Bandwidth would be charged by the monthly aggregated
> average of throughput - not by total bytes transferred. Exchange Server
> domain accounts would also be an extra charge.
>
> The drawback would be that customer service would be almost non-existant,
> with the exception of server monitoring, etc.. the servers will be up and
> running.. you wouldn't get phone support for the first few months at the
> least. E-mail support would be available but probably sporadic at times...
>
> Any thoughts?
>
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