"Guy J. McDowell" wrote:
> I see some things that to me are strange.
>
> "Junior CF Developer - Must have B.Sc. 3 years CF experience yadda
> yadda"
I've noticed that too. Some jobs I've looked at say "Sr. ColdFusion
Developer. Must have at least one year ColdFusion and HTML" but it has a
salary that's half the salary of any other listed Jr. Developer job.
Benefits: health, dental, really nice job title.
The one I've really enjoyed seeing is "Junior ColdFusion Developer -
must have BS in Computer Science, 5-7 years professional C++, 3 years
Java and JavaScript, 1 yeah of HTML and 2-3 years ColdFusion 4.5." Some
of the job requirements don't make sense for any level position. I
really have seen jobs asking for the same amount of Java and JavaScript,
with a significantly lower amount of HTML.
The last time I was looking, I found ads for Junior jobs requiring 3+
years of ColdFusion 4.0 and ColdFusion 4.0.1 had just been released. I
don't think ColdFusion had been around more than 4 years at that point.
> HR - "So what's your minimum required salary?"
> Me - "Well about $X."
> HR - "That's too low, I don't think you're experienced enough for the
> position."
You didn't even mention the infamous "What are you asking" followed by
"Our most experienced programmer only makes $X so we clearly can't pay
you that much (but he's under a non-disclosure of salary agreement so
don't ask him about that-- it'll only make him uncomfortable)."
> What the heck? Just because I don't over inflate my worth means I
> don't know how to do the job? What's up with that?
It goes both ways. If you want to make a salary you deserve you have to
inflate your price but when you do sometimes they say "Next" even if
you're their best choice.
My mother actually trains people for negotiating these things as part of
her Business Writing curriculum. You're never supposed to tell your
minimum salary, even if they ask. When they ask you're supposed to say
"I'm currently asking for <insert inflated price here>." Otherwise they
might use your minimum salary as your offer and that'll just make you
bitter in the end. She figures she'd better train people for this since
no one else is and she has to resumes and cover letters anyway.
> Next time I'm asking for a hundred grand just to see my resume...then
> they will think I am the master right away.
I see their reasoning though. You aren't experienced enough--
at negotiating with HR people. Maybe you're even *gasp* loyal. FLEEEEE!
FLEEEEEE IN TERRORRRRRRRRRRR!
> Just rambling and griping in good fun...
I think you should forward your message to the BACFUG list so maybe the
guy I'm going to call today would read it. ;) It's a shame. I think I'd
enjoy working there. I'm expecting him to be an HR person and I'm
beginning to think he's not very good at that yet.
I'm not bitter though. No one's paying me enough to be bitter.
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