Ahh yes, logic! I wholeheartedly agree with you! I have always been very
efficient at visualizing logic and how I want my apps to work. Maybe I am
using skills I learned in mathematics and not even realizing it, but I also
believe I am using skills I've learned from life. Like common sense and the
ability to think through a task.
In the programming course, we spent weeks on logic, before we were even
allowed to lay a finger on the keyboard. (Try and spend 6 hours a day, 4
days a week for 2.5 weeks in front of a computer that you weren't even
allowed to turn on and write applications) Sheesh. Torture! But very needed
torture.
In the CF class I teach, as well as the HTML class, I make all the students
map out their applications, going over what we want it to do, what the
desired result is, etc, etc. Very important step to the whole process, yes,
yes.
So ok. Math. Necessary evil. However. You won't catch me taking it again!
<grin>
Erika
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-----Original Message-----
From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 11:51 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
Well the reason most CS programs include a lot of math, is to help teach
logic.
I have worked with people who have note come from a CS background, some are
journalism majors some are art majors, but either way they had little math
experience past Algebra.
One of the important parts of an application is the logic structure. Things
must happen in a particular order or else it might work differently. While
most people understand this, some of the people I have worked with in the
past have had trouble writing these apps.
When a single page load is responsible for a number of things, It is
important that it all happens at just the right time.
I am not passing judgement on anybody without seeing their code, I just
know what I have seen directly.
I know that people will very rarely use the mathematics they learn in these
classes, but that is not what the classes are for. They are there to teach
logic and structure at its most basic level. And when programming can be
very important.
At 11:08 AM 4/9/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>Nick,
>
>For the mathematically challenged, those subjects are a bit tough. I mean I
>managed to pull B's, but it was like laboring intensively under 110 degree
>conditions with no food and water...absolute torture to get through....I'm
>basically a artsy person, like to paint and draw, so my brain just couldn't
>handle all the calculations. Besides, back then, I didn't know I was going
>into programming.
>
>I have to say though, I did attend an 11-month programming course a couple
>of years ago, Java, C, JavaScript, RPG were the subjects, and my inability
>to process calculations really never came into play. I passed with a 98.5
>average and thoroughly enjoyed all. So I still don't see where it comes
into
>play.....unless you are talking about physically seeing how to get to the
>bottom of calculation like in shopping carts and things.....which I can
>visually see and work through.
>
>Just because I am curious how others code, can you give me an example?
>
>Erika
>
>"There are only two ways to live your life: One is as though nothing is a
>miracle, the other is as though everything is." - Albert Einstein
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:34 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: CS vs BFA
>
>
>This is strange, I find myself using algebra and calc all the time in my
>programming.
>
>and I am not being a smart ass here.
>
>At 08:35 PM 4/8/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >The short version:
> >
> >Tried college, couldn't do it. I was an artsy, geeky type and hated
school,
> >it was boring. Couldn't figure out where I was going to apply
> >algebra/calculus to life...so I quit.
> >
> >Worked my way up the corporate ladder as a cash office
> >clerk/cashier/plan-o-gram manager/store-opener/assistant buyer/clerk for
a
> >big retail chain for 2.5 years, had a panic attack from the stress, quit,
> >then trained horses (10 years, most full-time, part-time up until 3 years
> >ago) during which I maintained a career in the printing industry doing
> >graphic design and implementing digital technologies, hit the salary
>ceiling
> >and decided to go the internet route.
> >
> >Now I am deliriously happy in my career of choice.
> >
> >Erika
> >
> >"It is better to be wrong than to simply follow convention. If you are
> >wrong, no matter, you have learned something and will grow stronger. If
you
> >are right, you have taken another step toward a fulfilling life." - Bryce
> >Courteney
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Marc Garrett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:12 AM
> >To: CF-Community
> >Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
> >
> >
> >I was an English major, then took my Juris Doctor and worked as an
> >environmental consultant before turning to databases and CF/ASP.
> >
> >Someday, in a perfect world, I hope to tie it all together. :-)
> >
> >Marc Garrett
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Judith Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 9:58 AM
> >Subject: Re: CS vs BFA
> >
> >
> > > Woohoo! Now I don't feel so awkward.
> >
>
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