Thank Tim for the kind words... Been working hard on this hobby since 
January... the site ain't pretty... but if it were that would probably 
turn a lot of folks off :)


Yeah a little sales pitch for all of you and history.. since I think 
this is a group that likes a bit of both...

Pubcrawler.com turns officially 6 years old this year... We picked the 
site up from a company that was bought by web big-shop iXL...  it was a 
remaining asset that iXL didn't acquire.  The board of the company 
demanded asset liquidation last fall... A ton was broken and some parts 
continue to be on my t-be-fixed list...

So the site is used by two types of people mostly, those that travel 
and those that want to find local beer friendly places.

99% of the content is provided by the users.. 

Since taking it over I have been focusing on the community aspects 
(forums, geographic information - GIS, better means to input data, 
third party data conversion/import/export, and WAP enablement)...

I have been doing this stuff for years now and use only Cold Fusion..  
We run Pubcrawler off of 3 servers - 2 front ends.. one SQL server 
box.. I have the access datbases and miscellaneous pieces stored in a 
common NAS drive (HP Surestore 5000)... we just use a round robin DNS 
load distribution....

The site is moderately successful.. it is documented in books... yes 
mentioned in books... about 13k people in our email list... decent 
placement in Yahoo where it should be and consitantly placed in search 
engines and linked on others pages... thousands of visitors daily... no 
advertising...

A few things I want to share with everyone on the list about developing 
good sticky sites that keep people coming back:

1. Dynamic content - use third party where you can, but have it... the 
more often the better on the home page.

2. Calendar... make sure you have one for the site, events, etc.

3. News... Keep it upfront and active... the more you let people know 
the more forgiving they are when things dont work... plus it gives them 
a places to check things...

4. GIS... if your site ever needs to say what is nearby (real 
community) or if people ever want to travel to something physically, 
both GIS and things like MapQuest are mandatory....

5. Show pictures of the people, place and products... that is what it 
is all about... words can only say so much.. experience differs... but 
photos are slightly more consistant.

6. WAP... although WAP hasn't caught on here state side.. it is big in 
Europe and Asia...

point you WAP phone at www.pubcrawler.com... there is a abbreviated 
search with one button to dial the establishment...

Information needs to be accessible anywhere at anytime..

7. Alternative technology... be sure to support or review supporting 
things like site over telephone... for people who don't have WAP or the 
deaf... (we are developing this now)...

8. Design, graphics and flash only make things pretty... they make 
things darn slow, impossible to use for peole with disabilities and 
those with older computers or browsers..

9. No FLASH homepages or flash sites.

10. Make sure you have a mailing list.

11. Dynamic sites.. said it earlier.. build the business logic as early 
as possible to collect emails... send emails... run reporting...


Now if we could only figure out a revenue model for the site :) Any 
ideas... (we are working on that too)...

-paris
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]


-----Original Message-----
From: "Exposure.com CF" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 15:19:54 -0400
Subject: RE: Beer (was RE: Our tournament today ! :)

> 
> All this good beer knowledge floating around the room,
> at least one person put it to good work: Paris.
> 
> Cool site!  (I think I used to be on that mailing list)
> 
> Thanks, Tim
> 
> Timothy M. Dineen
> CEO.Developer
> http://www.exposure.com
> Exposure.com - Internet Consulting
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 2:16 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Beer (was RE: Our tournament today ! :)
> 
> 
> Oops! you arent the admin! here is a good link
> 
> http://www.pubcrawler.com/Template/ReviewWC.cfm?BrewerID=247
> 
> -p
> 
> [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> [connecting people, places and things]
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Paris Lundis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:58:03 -0400
> Subject: RE: Beer (was RE: Our tournament today ! :)
> 
> > Abita is actually a good place...
> >
> > http://www.pubcrawler.com/Template/admin/AdminPubDetails.cfm?
> > BrewerID=247
> >
> > -p
> > [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> > [connecting people, places and things]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Russel Madere" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:20:17 -0500
> > Subject: RE: Beer (was RE: Our tournament today ! :)
> >
> > > Bite your tongue.  Come to New Orleans and try what the Abita
> > Brewery
> > > is
> > > producing.  Very nice stuff and the brewmeister came from
> Germany.
> > >
> > > ============================================================
> > >   Russel Madere, Jr.         Senior Web Developer
> > >   ICQ: 5446158               http://www.TurboSquid.com
> > >
> > > Some days you eat the bear; some days the bear eats you.
> > > ============================================================
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ang�l Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2001 10:51
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: Beer (was RE: Our tournament today ! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Bah. Americans don't know Beer....Carib is like Ambrosia to
> those
> > > > that visit
> > > > Trinidad.
> > > > ^_^
> > > > hee hee
> > > >
> > > > Check out the Lagers here.
> > > > Samuel Adams came in Third...got a Bronze.
> > > >
> > > > It is apparently a German-Style Marzen.
> > > > Have you tasted the Silver and Gold place winners?
> > > >
> > > > -Gel
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: George Kaytor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > >
> > > > Samuel Adams beers have won top honors at the Great American
> Beer
> > > Festival
> > > > for 14 consecutive years, another feat unmatched by any other
> > > brewer.
> > > >
> > > > -george
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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