The simple fact is that the rest of the world has recognised there is a
problem and have resolved to try and do something about it, the US is out on
its own and has been rightly criticised for its stance.
At the end of the twentieth century it finally began to look like humankind
was beginning to get its act together about Nuclear Weapons, the Environment
etc, it is very depressing that at the beginning of the third millennium one
of the biggest and richest countries in the world seemingly places money
above all else.
I hope that doesn't offend too many people on this list, you don't deserved
to be judged by what Bush is doing - any more than those of us in the UK
should be judged on what that Muppet Blair gets up to.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Fobare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: Hiyas! :)
>
>
> >The treaty (or at least a modified version of it) was ratified this week
by
> >178 countries, not too absurd by my reckoning.
>
> Do you comprehend the difference between "signed" and "ratified"? Once
> again, not one EU signatory to Kyoto '97 actually ratified it. This is
> because the people who negotiated the agreement had little understanding
of
> political realities in the U.S., the EU, and elsewhere. Well, probably
some
> did, and simply saw Kyoto '97 as a stepping stone to bigger and better
things.
>
> And the "modified" version now being tossed around contains no penalties
> for treaty members who miss emissions targets/goals. In other words, it
> doesn't really do anything, except provide a fig leaf for the
> unelected(largely) bureaucrats who devoted so much time to Kyoto.
>
> Dave Fobare
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Dave Fobare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:10 PM
> >Subject: Re: Hiyas! :)
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Absurd: Ridiculously incongruous or unreasonable.
> > >
> > > By that standard, the 1997 Kyoto protocol was indeed absurd.
> > >
> > > In the U.S., Clinton would not even submit the treaty to the Senate
for
> > > ratification. Kyoto's most prominent U.S. backer, Al Gore, studiously
> > > avoided any mention of Kyoto during his campaign for president. Not a
> > > single EU signatory actually ratified Kyoto, even though the Kyoto
accord
> > > was largely the result of EU-based enviros.
> > >
> > > And all of this could be and *was* predicted by many political
observers
> >at
> > > the birth of the Kyoto agreement. Without commenting the contents of
> >Kyoto,
> > > any treaty this unsuccessful could only be called absurd.
> > >
> > > Certainly, one cannot say that George Bush "pulled out" of Kyoto. The
U.S.
> > > was never *in* Kyoto. Bush simply commented upon the obvious.
> > >
> > > Dave Fobare
> > >
> > > At 07:46 PM 7/25/2001 +0100, you wrote:
> > > >Why absurd?
> > > >
> > > >This week, every country in the world - I will repeat that - EVERY
> >country
> > > >apart from the US signed a new environment treaty, that combined with
the
> > > >refusal to get involved with the Germ Warfare agreement because of
> > > >"commercial interests" is giving Bush an extremely poor image
worldwide.
> > > >
> > > >I won't even start on the son of star wars, lets just hope that the
UK
> > > >government refuses to let our country be used for it.
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Dave Fobare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 6:18 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: Hiyas! :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >Have you folks seen that Bush has pulled out of yet another
> >agreement?
> > > > > >First Kyoto and now one that would ban Germ Warfare.
> > > > > >http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/07/25/germ.treaty/index.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, the Senate shut the door on Kyoto with a 95-0 vote in
1997,
> > > >after
> > > > > which Clinton refused to even submit the absurd accord for formal
> > > >ratification.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave Fobare
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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