> (This is really an accounting and/or marketing issue - I mean really all I
> am asking for is mm (or whoever) to finance my server licensing over two
> years, include the upgrade subscription fee, and some early withdrawal
> insurance. and maybe throw in some financing and administration fees. I
> mean, it's just math.)
Eric, this simply won't give them the cash flow necessary to operate the
corporation at a profit margin appropriate for their industry. Without
that, their banks will not lend them money at favorable terms -- either
short- or long-term -- in order for them to grow their business according to
market conditions, much less give them the revenue stream sufficient to both
operate and pay back debt.
Then the death march begins in earnest. They don't even have to _lose_
money during a fiscal quarter; they just have to _fall short_ of
profitability predictions. Once this happens, their stock loses value
because everyone sells in favor of some other stock. Then the total value
of the company dumps, and the banks call their loans (if callable), but at
the very least lend no more money because there is no value on the books to
back it up.
Then everything just implodes financially from there. We simply cannot
allow that to happen.
Remember: they already put in the debt up front to engineer the software
(well, Allaire did, then Macromedia assumed that investment when they in
turn purchased the company's assets). They must have a swift and compounded
cash influx to match that expenditure.
> While I'm on a role - $2715 CAD (pro license w/ 2 yr subscription) over 24
> months at 2% interest per month + $70 admin fee = $145 + whatever we think
> the cancelation insurance should be if anything). I'm not sure if the
> licensing on the MM site is in CAD or USD, so that might adjust the
monthly
> fee down to around $100 per month - damn affordable.
>
How is this going to give them enough money to operate at a profit and still
turn out better and better software? $100 Canadian will buy you a month of
cable TV in America. I think ColdFusion Server 5 and the upcoming Neo
release are worth _considerably_ more per month to everyone -- developers
and end users both -- than cable TV.
> I'm pretty small potatoes, so what might seem like a little bit of cash is
> relatively more to me. And besides when I plan stuff in my head - I work
> with monthly numbers. So if MM (or anyone for that matter) said, "hey
Eric -
> $100 a month for CF5 Pro", I'd probably go for it today. I'm not in it to
> make money off the hosting part, I am essentially just creating a
playground
> to learn and experiment with technology.
This part is easy, my friend! Just purchase a single copy of ColdFusion
Studio. It runs less than $500 and contains a single-user license of
ColdFusion Server. You can legally develop commercial apps with it, then
deploy them in a shared hosting arrangement (I suggest CFHosting.com if
you're going to deploy on a shared host) for about fifty a month for a
reasonable setup (stay away from the cheaper stuff).
>
> For the reasons you note below, do I own my own server. I have 4.5.2
running
> and plan to upgrade soon. But I really should have two machines going.
If you already have two licenses paid for on V4.5.1 SP2 Professional, then
the upgrades shouldn't be that expensive. How much were you quoted for the
upgrades? I'll try to find a good deal for you, if I can. Just let me know
and I'll give it a try.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
Advanced Certified ColdFusion Developer
Productivity Enhancement, Inc.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 10:24 PM
Subject: Re: Renting CF5
> >>If you use it, you gotta buy it...
>
> Eric
>
> From: "Adam Phillip Churvis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Renting CF5
> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:08:32 -0400
>
> > I got in my damn head that I want to "rent" cf5 as subscription
software
> on
> > my server. Now I just need to convince macromedia to license it like
> that...
> > I don't want to buy it, I just want it. I want to be able to scale and
> pull
> > back as I need to.
>
> I just spent almost $6,000 on licenses and 2-year subscriptions to
multiple
> copies of ColdFusion Studio about thirty minutes ago. We're also about to
> purchase a bunch of copies of ColdFusion 5 Enterprise, Freehand, Flash,
> Fireworks, and UltraDev.
>
> If you use it, you gotta buy it, and you gotta keep paying for upgrades.
No
> way around it. Engineering commercial software is massively expensive, so
> we all need to ante-up so Macromedia can give us ColdFusion Neo.
>
> Macromedia is an efficiently-run corporation with excellent management and
> engineering, which you can plainly see from both the quality of their
> graphics products and their market penetration, and you will see that same
> prowess displayed in advancing ColdFusion products over the coming years
as
> they start to truly integrate former Allaire products into the fold.
>
> PS-- If you want problem-free ColdFusion apps then get your sites off of
> those low-rent shared servers, co-lo your own server box (or better yet,
> multiple boxes) at Globix or CFHosting, buy your licenses to Windows,
> ColdFusion, SQL Server, etc., run only code that you yourself have written
> (one amateur's endlessly-looping stored procedure can bring down your
entire
> server), and you'll have complete control and little or no downtime. It
may
> seem like a huge amount of money to invest in yourself at first, but there
> is one big advantage: you'll actually get work done and not have to
> constantly field tech support calls from your clients complaining about
> their site going down, slowdowns, "Cannot access datasource" errors, etc.
>
> Hugs and Kisses, my little love muffins!
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> Advanced Certified ColdFusion Developer
> Productivity Enhancement, Inc.
>
> The world's most advanced ColdFusion training:
>
> -- Advanced Bootcamp for Database, Javascript, and ColdFusion 5
> -- Advanced Development with SQL Server, Oracle, and ColdFusion 5
> -- Advanced Scalability for ColdFusion 5 Applications
> -- Advanced Graphic Design for Web Developers
>
> Get more info at http://www.ColdFusionTraining.com!
>
> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Phone: 770-446-8866
>
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