then Pearl Harbor.
Dana
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:24:27 -0400, Nick McClure
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Niger uranium issue is grasping at straws, the bottom line is that they
> can't find anything, it is the responsibility of the President as commander
> in chief of the armed forces to be 100% certain that the reasons he gives to
> the American public are valid.
>
> Spies get their information from informants who may have their own agenda,
> it is important when we go to war, we know the people giving us the reasons
> are trustworthy, it is the responsibility of the President and the Congress
> to validate the information BEFORE we go to war, not after.
>
> Also, we invaded a sovereign country, we didn't go in and look for weapons,
> we invaded first, toppled the government, then did a quick look around
> couldn't find anything, so we went about our business.
>
> There was never a declaration of war, the President just called it part of
> the war on terror, but this isn't looking for stateless terrorist, people
> who hide in caves plotting. This was a country, with a government and
> infrastructure, Saddam was the recognized leader of Iraq, and legally was in
> charge. He was in violation of UN resolutions and sanctions, as were the
> countries supporting him in this venture, he did seem to want to purchase
> the materials, and some suggest Saddam thought he had some.
>
> The CIA, the Brits, the French, the Germans, and a number of intel agencies
> messed up on this, fact remains, there was no clear proof of weapons, even
> the info Powel showed the UN was not clear proof, the pictures showed what
> looked like weapons factories, but turned out, they were not.
>
> As of right now, they seem to think he had the capabilities to quickly begin
> production if he wanted to, but I don't think that is enough to base an
> invasion on.
>
> I don't end the fault at the CIA, the fault lies in the CIA, the Congress
> and the President.
>
> That is the job of Congress, the intelligence and armed services committees
> in both houses should be keeping up with this, they should be making sure
> the CIA and Military Intel is accurate.
>
> The failure in my mind falls directly on the congress.
>
> Does anybody know when was the last time the US actually declared war
>
> _____
>
> From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:12 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 9/11 Commission to Cheney - You're still wrong.
>
>
>
> Here I am thinking you're going to apologize to Bush
> and his supporters for accusing him of lying. Even
> Sen. Rockefeller admits he believed the same info that
> Bush did and gave his full support for the war. Bush
> didn't lie and he didn't pressure anyone to fudge the
> facts. Even Wilson's story was discredited from the
> beginning. The Niger Uranium purchase attempt is still
> being investigated.
>
> You say, "their own corruption, misinformation and
> outright lying to the public".
> Now what did they lie about? You won't accept anything
> other than guilty will you?
> What do you need Al Gore to say it before you'll
> believe it?________________________________
>
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