What's the source on the Ted Koppel quote? And what are you trying to
show with Rockefeller's statement? I don't think anyone here is
desputing that he voted to invade Iraq
(?)
Dana
PS thanks for the confirmation on WWII
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 21:02:18 -0700 (PDT), Sam Morris
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ted Koppel reported: "We wanted to see whether the
> conclusions reached by the Intelligence Committee
> would have made any difference to the other senators
> who voted to authorize the war in Iraq, so we called
> them.
>
> "Of the 42 we reached, only three said they would have
> changed their minds had they known then 'what they
> know now.'
>
> And then there's Sen Rockefellers statement on October
> 10, 2002
> http://www.senate.gov/~rockefeller/news/2002/flrstmt0102002.html
>
> Seems like we would have still gone to war.
> WMD's were just a part of the reason we went to war.
>
> When you say Saddam was legally in charge, is that
> because he won the election with 100% of the votes?
>
> World War II
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declarations_of_war_in_the_United_States
>
> -sm
>
>
>
> --- Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The Niger uranium issue is grasping at straws, the
> > bottom line is that they
> > can't find anything, it is the responsibility of the
> > President as commander
> > in chief of the armed forces to be 100% certain that
> > the reasons he gives to
> > the American public are valid.
> >
> >
> >
> > Spies get their information from informants who may
> > have their own agenda,
> > it is important when we go to war, we know the
> > people giving us the reasons
> > are trustworthy, it is the responsibility of the
> > President and the Congress
> > to validate the information BEFORE we go to war, not
> > after.
> >
> >
> >
> > Also, we invaded a sovereign country, we didn't go
> > in and look for weapons,
> > we invaded first, toppled the government, then did a
> > quick look around
> > couldn't find anything, so we went about our
> > business.
> >
> >
> >
> > There was never a declaration of war, the President
> > just called it part of
> > the war on terror, but this isn't looking for
> > stateless terrorist, people
> > who hide in caves plotting. This was a country, with
> > a government and
> > infrastructure, Saddam was the recognized leader of
> > Iraq, and legally was in
> > charge. He was in violation of UN resolutions and
> > sanctions, as were the
> > countries supporting him in this venture, he did
> > seem to want to purchase
> > the materials, and some suggest Saddam thought he
> > had some.
> >
> >
> >
> > The CIA, the Brits, the French, the Germans, and a
> > number of intel agencies
> > messed up on this, fact remains, there was no clear
> > proof of weapons, even
> > the info Powel showed the UN was not clear proof,
> > the pictures showed what
> > looked like weapons factories, but turned out, they
> > were not.
> >
> >
> >
> > As of right now, they seem to think he had the
> > capabilities to quickly begin
> > production if he wanted to, but I don't think that
> > is enough to base an
> > invasion on.
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't end the fault at the CIA, the fault lies in
> > the CIA, the Congress
> > and the President.
> >
> >
> >
> > That is the job of Congress, the intelligence and
> > armed services committees
> > in both houses should be keeping up with this, they
> > should be making sure
> > the CIA and Military Intel is accurate.
> >
> >
> >
> > The failure in my mind falls directly on the
> > congress.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anybody know when was the last time the US
> > actually declared war
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 6:12 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: 9/11 Commission to Cheney - You're
> > still wrong.
> >
> >
> >
> > Here I am thinking you're going to apologize to Bush
> > and his supporters for accusing him of lying. Even
> > Sen. Rockefeller admits he believed the same info
> > that
> > Bush did and gave his full support for the war. Bush
> > didn't lie and he didn't pressure anyone to fudge
> > the
> > facts. Even Wilson's story was discredited from the
> > beginning. The Niger Uranium purchase attempt is
> > still
> > being investigated.
> >
> > You say, "their own corruption, misinformation and
> > outright lying to the public".
> > Now what did they lie about? You won't accept
> > anything
> > other than guilty will you?
> > What do you need Al Gore to say it before you'll
> > believe it?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
>
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