we're even limiting it to a lesser portion of the population that can decide
how the rest of the country should live.
My point in posting the previous message was that people take a lot of
different things from the bible. We can't possibly create legislation based
on it. We're sure to exclude/offend/alienate/oppress somebody if that's the
rule we're going to legislate from.
I'm sorry I offended you, but to be truthful, most of your posts on this
subject have been offensive to me.
Marlon
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 8:05 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
>
> Old Testament and that was very offensive.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:59 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
>
>
> So, I guess if we're going to live by the bible, I guess we can all start
> having slaves again!
>
> http://www.carm.org/questions/slavery.htm
>
> Slavery was permitted in the Bible because of sin in the world. It
> existed before the Jews were formed as a nation and it existed after
> Israel
> was conquered. God allows many things to happen in the world such as
> storms, famine, murder, etc. Slavery, like divorce, is not preferred by
> God. Instead, it is allowed. Where many nations treated their slaves
very
> badly, the Bible gave many rights and privileges to slaves. So, even
> though
> it isn't the best way to deal with people, because God has allowed man
> freedom, slavery then exists. God instructed the Israelites to treat them
> properly.
>
> * The Bible acknowledged the slave's status as the property of the
> master (Ex. 21:23; Lev. 25:46),
> * The Bible restricted the master's power over the slave. Ex. 21:20).
> * The slave was a member of the master's household (Lev. 22:11)
> * The slave was required to rest on the Sabbath (Exodus 20:10; Deut.
> 5:14)
> * The slave was required and to participate in religious observances
> (Gen. 17:13; Exodus 12:44; Lev. 22:11).
> * The Bible prohibited extradition of slaves and granted them asylum
> (Deut. 23:16-17).
> * The servitude of a Hebrew debt-slave was limited to six years (Ex.
> 21:2; Deut. 15:12).
> * When a slave was freed, he was to receive gifts that enabled him to
> survive economically (Deut. 15:14)
>
> The reality of slavery cannot be denied. Slaves were "slave labor
> played a minor economic role in the ancient Near East, for privately
> owned
> slaves functioned more as domestic servants than as an agricultural or
> industrial labor force."1
>
> But on another note, why should the *bible* have any influence on the
> government regulating marriage?
>
> Marlon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Monique Boea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 4:10 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
> >
> > Sorry, sending again...
> >
> > hopefully w/o the HTML junk
> >
> >
> >
> > 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all
> ungodliness
> > and unrighteousness of people39 who suppress the truth by their40
> > unrighteousness,41 1:19 because what can be known about God is
> plain
> > to
> > them,42 because God has made it plain to them. 1:20 For since the
> > creation
> > of the world his invisible attributes-his eternal power and divine
> > nature-have been clearly seen, because they are understood through
> > what has
> > been made. So people43 are without excuse. 1:21 For although they
> > knew God,
> > they did not glorify him as God or give him thanks, but they became
> > futile
> > in their thoughts and their senseless hearts44 were darkened. 1:22
> > Although
> > they claimed45 to be wise, they became fools 1:23 and exchanged
> the
> > glory of
> > the immortal God for an image resembling mortal human beings46 or
> > birds or
> > four-footed animals47 or reptiles.
> >
> > 1:24 Therefore God gave them over48 in the desires of their hearts to
> > impurity, to dishonor49 their bodies among themselves.50 1:25 They51
> > exchanged the truth of God for a lie52 and worshiped and served the
> > creation53 rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
> >
> > 1:26 For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. For
> > their
> > women exchanged the natural sexual relations for unnatural ones,54
> 1:27
> > and
> > likewise the men also abandoned natural relations with women55 and
> > were
> > inflamed in their passions56 for one another. Men57 committed
> > shameless acts
> > with men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
> >
> > 1:28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God,58 God gave
> > them
> > over to a depraved mind, to do what should not be done.59 1:29 They
> > are
> > filled60 with every kind of unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness,
> > malice. They are rife with61 envy, murder, strife, deceit, hostility.
They
> > are gossips, 1:30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant,
boastful,
> > contrivers of all sorts of evil, disobedient to parents, 1:31 senseless,
> > covenant-breakers,62 heartless, ruthless. 1:32 Although they fully
> know63
> > God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to
> > die,64
> > they not only do them but also approve of those who practice them.65
> >
> >
> >
> >
> _____
>
>
>
>
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