So in other words, you have a problem with people who have high standards of
excellence, a desire to achieve life-long personal goals, who believe that
true self-realization can best come through discipline and devotion to
purpose, who are proud to wear a uniform because it represents the best
ideals the world has to offer?

That's what you object to, Jennifer?

There is no "time of peace" Jennifer. There are always threats to our
security both here and abroad. We need a ready military to answer those
threats in a timely manner. Until the rest of the world lays down its guns,
its nuclear weapons, its chemical agents, it's biological labs, we need a
ready military to respond to any crisis.

I served four years in the USAF. During that time I met a total of two
people whom I would classify as warmongers, and they were both enlisted men.
Everybody else, to a person, was interested in doing a job, maintaining
peace and going home to their families at the end of a shift (or for the
single men, going back to the dorms and watching Showtime).  Yes, we were
all prepared to fight and die for our country if necessary, but we didn't
lust after it. We were more interested, frankly, in what the military could
do for us -- short term, pay for school; long-term (career types), provide a
nice retirement package while they were still young enough to start a second
career (enter at 18, retire at 38 at half pay, full medical and commissary
access -- how's that sound?).

There are lots of motivations for the men and women who serve in the
military, even career types. The least of which is blood lust.

H.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:04 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Military Leaders (was RE: George W. Bush)


I did write it and I suggest you calm down before rereading and responding
to it.

One of the things that you might notice if you did that is that I'm not
talking about general military *personnel,* I'm talking about military
*leaders.* I'm talking about people who have been in the military for 30
years, risen to some really high rank, and are qualified to appear on
national television as military experts, people who are *really* in charge
of the military. Something has to motivate those people to dedicate their
lives to gaining that position and I think that in a lot of cases, those
motivations are things that I would have a problem with.

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