For example, I give you a situation that happened to a friend of mine:
Met a girl at a college party, both were very drunk. Took her back
to his room, they ended up having sex. She appeared to be reacting
consensually to him, she showed some hesitation, but then appeared to
be reacting appropriately. She spent the night and left the next
morning, without any ill will.
he was thrown out of school for "rape", because apparently her
hesitation (which she appeared to get over quickly) was a "no".
there was a well publicized case in California where a 17 year old boy
was convicted of rape because the girl said "I want to go home" during
the act. She never fought, never said no, never pushed him away -
just in the middle of the act said "I want to go home".
These rapes aren't violent and shouldn't be treated as such. They are
horrible misunderstandings between people who need to communicate
before screwing around, but those men did not committ violent crimes.
----- Original Message -----
From: Doug White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 18:29:48 -0500
Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Just before you get off on a tangent - ALL RAPE IS CONSIDERED VIOLENT under the
law.
There is no such thing as non-violent rape.
Inappropriate sexual contact with a minor is termed "indecency with a child" and
not called "rape," although the criminal penalties are usually the same.
----- Original Message -----
From: Beth F
To: CF-Community
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
In terms of the Senate bill the biggest problem I see with it is its
attempt to skirt the justice department of the united states. The
whole purpose of the justice department is to regulate the legislative
folks. Without that balance, the legislators can do whatever the hell
they want, without any regulation. That sucks.
This discussion:
So Issac, you are saying we should distinguish between a rape that is
violent in nature, to perhaps one where the victim is unconcious? I
kind of agree - although the sentencing for rapes of non-violent rapes
of children should be just as severe as violent rapes of children.
Or perhaps rape is one crime and assault is another - so if you commit
a violent rape you get convicted of both assault and rape and if you
commit a non-violent rape you just get convicted of rape?
----- Original Message -----
From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 19:39:17 -0400
Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Right -- though the qualification in my mind isn't really saying that
this is an exception to the rule of no laws governing sex between
adults, but rather that there are certain circumstances which are
inclusive of sex in addition to some form of violence which should be
punished. It's the violence that should be regulated, not the sex,
even though in the case of rape for instance the two are pretty
closely tied. But still -- I think we should make that distinction
especially in our laws between sex and violence and what it is that
we're punishing when we punish a rapist or other sex offender.
> true.
> I originally wrote the sentence without qualification and
> looked at
> it, though, and said well.. here are a few things I can
> think of that
> should be regulated :)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 18:07:17 -0400
> Subject: Re: Senate rejects move to ban same-sex marriage
> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> In general I personally am against laws regulating the
>> sexual behavior
>> of adults with other adults. There will of course be
>> exceptions such
>> as rape or deliberate infection with AIDS.
> Both of which are violent crimes and therefore would be
> illegal for
> reasons entirely unrelated to sexual contact.
> s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117
> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
> add features without fixtures with
> the onTap open source framework
> http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1__________
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