In my oppinion being proud of your country is why makes wars possible.
I think maybe concern for staving children in Africa is more constructive
than national pride, but that's just my oppinion.


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From: "Raymond Camden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 7:06 AM
Subject: RE: The Anti Terrorism Act..


> > I don't understand the opinions of a lot of Americans....
> > Americans seem to have a major superiority complex. All this
> > talk about 'heroes 'war' and patriotic ramble. Anyone could
> > be forgiven for thinking America was not a lot different from
> > other empires of the past like ancient Rome etc... Seems to
> > me Americans believe their life is more valuable than the
> > lives of other humans around the globe.
>
> Why is it that other countries are allowed to be proud of themselves,
> but when we are, it's a supiority complex? I happen to think America is
> the best country in the world. Does that mean I'm crazy or feel that I'm
> superior? No, it just means I'm proud of my country. Sure, I'm biased.
> Don't tell me the French don't think France is the best, or the Germans,
> etc, etc.
>
> > I'm struck by the American media as well. If only the average
> > American could see the media from an outside perspective an
> > realise how much america (and by way of cultural imperialism,
> > the rest of the world) is being completely propagandised
> > (like I have never seen as extreme before). The whole good
> > and evil debate. You know how many people GW pissed off when
> > he used the word 'crusade' in his rhetoric? How offensive
> > must that have been to people of the Islamic faith (given
>
> That's too bad. So, let me get this straight... because of the Crusades,
> we can't use the word "crusade" any more? That's almost as bad as the
> people complaining about the "Infinite Justice" code word. Give me a
> break.
>
> > history). Maybe our so called advanced civilisation really
> > isn't that different from the dark ages of the crusades... We
> > don't read anymore, we are incapable of forming independent
> > opinions, all we do is consume (which is the measure of our
> > worth) and we boil complex international politics down to
> > simple binaries philosophies because we are incapable of
> > seeing a more complex reality in which we aren't as innocent
> > as we make ourselves out to be. In short, we are reactionary
> > and are motivated by our emotions (fuelled by the media which
> > feeds on our fear). I really think that the so called
> > american 'way of life' is just a guise for maintaining
> > western luxuries at the expense of the rest of the world.
>
> Now here you have some good points. I do think people too often take the
> easy way out... ie, it's simpler to take the media's news w/o
> questioning it fully. I'd be willing to bet, however, that this has been
> a human frailty in all cultures...  well, those cultures that were
> powerful and rich, which we are ... I'm not saying that makes us better,
> I'm just saying that this has an impact on how we see the world.
>
> -RC
> 
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