Actually, I was talking about Arab hatred towards Israel when I made my post that you were referring to, not necessarily the US. I agree with your assertion that the modern reason for Arab dislike of the US is our direct support of Israel. So while such widespread dislike of the US among Arabs may be relatively new, their dislike of Israel goes back 6 decades.

So the United States aside, I think that the intense hatred of Israel among Arabs has become so entrenched, its learned, passed on from generation to generation, that having long lost its original impetus, it finds modern excuses for its' existence.

In a nutshell, I'm not sure there is anything Israel could do to satisfy a group of people who's stated mission is the destruction of the jewish state.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Gruss Gott
  To: CF-Community
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: The politicization of the Iraq War

  > On Tue, 12 Oct 2004, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  > I'm just wondering if you consider the insurgency attacks in Iraq to be justified?

  To be clear, I have 2 points:

  1.) Anytime somebody violently attacks someone else to accomplish a
  political objective, it's terrorism unless it's self defense.  So yes,
  *I* consider the insurgency attacks terrorism and therefore
  unjustified.

  2.) When somebody can make a reasonable argument that attacks are
  justified the line between terrorism and war will get blurred.
  Further not all war is justified so it complicates it even more.

  The original question here is why there is Arab hatred towards the US.
  You implied the reasons are random and that the Arabs just don't like
  us so they make up reasons.

  My point was, that's not true of you and it's not true of them.  From
  their perspective the reasons they hate us are justified - the
  question is are they reasonable?

  The answer is yes.  They feel the US rewards Israeli "terror" and
  punishes Arab "terror".  The 90% unilateral invasion of Iraq and 100%
  shunning of the UN confirmed that fear for many Arabs - according to
  polls ~90% up from ~40%.

  When I consider events from their perspective, I can see how they view
  the US as hypocritical and, therefore, an enemy.
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