At 11:36 9/28/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Nope, facts only. There is a saying I love which illustrates the point,
>
>The great tragedy of science - where one ugly fact kills a beautiful theory.
>
>Science does not operate on faith. Faith is completely unnecessary.
>Data and theory (ie models of reality) are what is necessary. You can
>toss faith out the window and still do very good science. Essentially
>faith is orthoginal to real science.
>
>larry

Larry,

I want to actually read through the long post that you sent me before I
respond to it.  But in the mean time let me address this.

Again I will ask about Poincare.  If Poincare is to be proven true and
there is some optimism at the math department at Columbia it will be and is
made a mathematically true; I hope you can prove that it is all
factual.  Because I can't.   I've been told that there is at most 5 people
in the world that can actually understand the proof enough to even make a
determination if it is correct or not.  So if these 5 people claim that
this proof is correct what is the rest of the world going to do?  There
will be a small population that will still try to work on it to prove it
isn't true but the rest of us are left to believe it is true because we
have faith that the expertise of 5 independent people said so.

The thing is I don't have a problem with this type of faith in
science.  Then again I don't have a problem with organized religion even
though I don't really practice.
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