There is a substantial amount of evidence that our intelligence services
knew something was going on. But here were communication failures all over
the place. At least one of the terrorists was on the FBI watch list, but the
FBI did not tell INS. Similar failures occurred with the CIA and the DIA.
Also airport security was laughable, both at Logan and Dulles.

I have no problem with rigorously enforcing current laws. I object to
enacting new laws that are unconstitutional or discriminatory.

larry

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Reichenbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:53 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: 100 percent chance of another attack
> 
> 
> I agree it is wrong to Discriminate against these people but 
> we need to do
> something. I mean the ones who did do this to us, we didn't 
> know they were
> terrorists, at least we didn't know some of them were 
> suspected terrorist,
> so how do we know that the ones that are here are not 
> terrorists. We have to
> protect our way of living somehow and if it means deporting 
> some individuals
> our doing extensive background checks to the people that are 
> already here
> and to the ones that want to come here, I believe it needs to be done.
> 
> Jason Reichenbach
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:01 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: 100 percent chance of another attack
> 
> 
> I've been trying not to get involved in most of the 
> "terrorism discussions"
> on the list, but I do want to just mention that it would be 
> wrong for the US
> government to take the position of deporting all immigrants and other
> non-citizens, Asian or otherwise.  To do so would be in 
> direct contradiction
> with what we try to represent and idealize - freedom and equality.  I
> wouldn't be proud to be an American if we started doing 
> things like that.
> Terrorism is horrible and so is racial profiling.  I'm 
> marrying an Indian
> woman this december and yes, the wedding is in India.  I will 
> be on the
> other side of the fence - the one being profiled and in 
> danger.  Will it
> stop me from going, no.  I feel very sorry for the Asian folks in this
> country right now... they face unnecessary fear.... and I 
> believe they are
> all very brave for sticking this out.
> 
> ~Simon
> 
> Simon Horwith
> Macromedia Certified Instructor
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> Fig Leaf Software
> 1400 16th St NW, # 500
> Washington DC 20036
> 202.797.6570 (direct line)
> www.figleaf.com
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 2:19 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: 100 percent chance of another attack
> 
> 
> >Let me guess, you're guilty until proven innocent. A 
> question lee, have 
> you
> >ever heard of the Constitution? How about the Bill of 
> Rights? I think it
> >would be a good idea to study these documents on occasion.
> >
> 
> Um Larry. They are not US citizens. The constitution does not 
> apply to 
> them. We would not be incarcerating them. We would simply be 
> telling them 
> to go home for a while. 
> 
> >Of the people here on student visas the vast majority are 
> from countries
> >such as Canada, England and Asian countries.
> 
> Yep that is unfortunate, but you either have to send them all home or 
> engage in time consuming background checks and profiling. We 
> don't have 
> the time right now.
> 
> >is your idea of a utopia, I want no part of your fascist
> >fantasies.
> 
> LOL. You're the fascist Larry. I'm simply concerned about the 
> safety of 
> the US people which our government is really dragging their 
> feet on. This 
> is an emergency situation. Our government has failed in 
> providing security.
>  Hard action is required. Just sit back, watch some football 
> games and 
> ignore reality Larry.
> 
> Lee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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