But - and here's the key - you're still assuming that those countries could
somehow veto the action.  You're still working on an assumption that this
phrase translates into concrete policies and some type of checklist.  It
doesn't.

Assume that there were WMDs:

Our reasons for going would be legitimate and they would be defensible.  (I
personally still feel that the threat may not have been immediate and that
we should have completed operations in Afghanistan first, but that's just
me.) Would everybody agree with them?  No.

However although France, Russia and Germany may not have supported the war
themselves there's little doubt that they could claim it was unwarranted or
illegal.  That action would have passed the "global test", it would have
been legitimatized and defensible.

It could be clearly and reasonably argued that in our position any of the
dissenting countries would have taken the exact same action.  While they may
have disliked our decision for any number of political reasons there would
be precious little for them to criticize.

That's the global test.  It's nothing more than that.

Yes, America first.  And placing America first means considering the values
and opinions of the world community: our allies, our trading partners (both
current and potential).

Putting America first and respecting the world community are not
incompatible goals.

Jim Davis 


-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 1:31 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Bin Laden shows his ugly face

America first and then the global community.

If Iraq did have the WMDs and nuclear weapons and we
had even more proof then we had last year, France,
Russia and Germany still would not have supported the
war. Most Arab nation still wouldn't have supported
the war.

-sm


--- Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Again I greatly prefer a leader that considers the
> defensibility of his
> actions.  Of course consideration for global
> reaction is part of the
> process, it should be part of the process.  That's
> the most simple aspect of
> being a member of a global community.
> 
> When considering something as serious as war you
> should ALWAYS be able to
> defend your actions upon the world stage.
> 
> That's all Kerry's statement meant and I personally
> agree with it.  We know
> that's what it meant because that's what he's said
> it meant.
> 
> Bush also obviously agrees with the idea as he spent
> a great amount of time,
> before and after the war, defending the action to
> the global community. 
> 
> The republican campaign did indeed paint the
> statement repeatedly as if
> other countries would be given veto power over our
> military decisions.  That
> was not the case.
> 
> Jim Davis
> 

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