rofl.

I keep hoping. Once in a while the good come out a head and those that
use fear and hate get royally screwed over.

larry


On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:00:49 -0600, Deanna Schneider
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Larry,
> Did you learn nothing from this whole election debacle? No one cares
> about science or research or truth. That stuff just makes our heads
> hurt. We all want everything boiled down to a 4 letter pseudo-acronym.
> Or, better yet - a color. I'm an orange - I've no time to think about
> this stuff! ;P
> 
> (just kidding - really)
> 
> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 11:50:50 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The MBTI measures an abbreviated set of personality facets that are
> > better assessed by such instruments as the FFI or NEO-PI. It also
> > doesn't take into account Openness to Experience which in my mind is
> > as important as Extraversion or Neuroticism.
> >
> > The FFI is shorter than the Meyers-Briggs, but was developed using
> > more modern test development methods. Moreover it has much better
> > validity and reliability. The NEO-PI has over 200 items, and provides
> > a content space that adequately samples the 5 basic facets of
> > personality.
> >
> > In some research I did as part of a grad course on test development,
> > we related the NEO-PI and the Meyers Briggs using a sample of 3600
> > business admins and marketing people in four different large
> > companies. The Meyers-Briggs model was not adequate to explain the
> > data (ie., the goodness-of-fit measures were not statistically
> > significant), while the full Five Factor Model provided a very good
> > fit to the data. When I ran a confirmatory factor analysis on the
> > data, again the NEO-PI adequately mapped to the underlying factors
> > within the data. In contrast only the E and N scales in the MBTI were
> > defined adequately, the remaining MBTI subscales split across all five
> > underlying factors in the data set.
> >
> > My own conclusion with these results is that why use a measure that
> > doesn't adquately represent what's within the population? I I was
> > still doing that sort of stuff, I'd trash the MBTI and start using the
> > FFI or the NEO-PI.
> >
> > pardon the experimental psychologist speak.
> >
> >
> >
> > larry
> >
> > On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 10:27:02 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > she stood up, exclaimed "I don't think I belong in this group",
> > > > and ran for the instructors. She should have been grouped with the 
> > > > INFPs.
> > >
> > > Great anecdote!  Thanks.
> > >
> > > That's consistent with what I've seen.  So, while Larry is probably
> > > right clinically (he certainly seems to be), generally I think it's an
> > > excellent test.
> > >
> > > Those "E" groups rock - you get the extroverted inventors together and
> > > pretty soon they're designing popsicle stick bridges.   Elsewhere the
> > > "I" groups are quietly reading or just looking frightened watching the
> > > "Es" live it up.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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