You have a point. Though, I'm also a strong proponent of explaining why little Sally down the street might not want to say hi to Bob, even though it's totally fine in our family. I mean, it's not like kids don't notice that other families turn up their noses at Bob.
I guess I'm saying that I don't see this family as holier than thou or judgemental at all. So, it was interesting to me that that's where your line of thinking went. On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:22:38 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > true. But if you are talking ideals, why even mention that other > people are afraid of him? In my opinion the sweet and condescending > stereotypes are just as toxic. Like being told in a meeting to go home > and take care of the children. > > Dana > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:12:29 -0600, Deanna Schneider > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Or, just as easily - see that man over there? That's Bob. He lost his > > job when the factory closed. He's nice. Some people are afraid of him, > > but you shouldn't be. Want to say hi to Bob? > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:52:28 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > see this stuffed bear? that's Paddington. See that man over there? > > > that's someone you don't want to run into in a dark alley. > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:36:35 -0600, Deanna Schneider > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Really? How do you come up with that? I mean, they're all pretty > > > > innocuous names. Dang, I wish I could remember them. But, I know the > > > > general feeling I got was "that's cute." I guess I don't see how > > > > naming turns into some sort of elitist behavior. > > > > > > > > In our house, even the poor dog has been demoted. She's now "da-doog" > > > > or "woof" instead of her proper name (Scully). Of course, we always > > > > called her "woof-tooth" as a term of endearment. So, I could see why > > > > that would be confusing. > > > > > > > > And, we do jokingly call one horse that Soren has "Stiffy" as it's > > > > made to support 140 pounds of child sitting on it's back, doing > > > > nothing. Standing there. Stiff. (Course, we're not seriously naming it > > > > Stiffy.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:15:55 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > hmm. Not far from there to "not our kind of people" if you ask me. If > > > > > the child had named the toys himself it would be different. By the > > > > > way, my daughter calls our dog "Hayley" or more usually "puppy." > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:02:48 -0600, Deanna Schneider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Yep, all the toys that were animalistic or humanistic had names. > > > > > > Grandma, mom and dad seem to be the namers. The kid is only 20 > > > > > > months, > > > > > > so I'm not sure how well he gets the concept of name (Puffy) vs. > > > > > > word > > > > > > for object (the puffer fish). *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:53:47 -0700, dana tierney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Question - you are saying that your friend's child's toys all had > > > > > > > names? Who named them? The child, or the parent? If the parent > > > > > > > named > > > > > > > the child's toys, that strikes me as over-control. But what do I > > > > > > > know? > > > > > > > I call our dog "the dog" or occasionally "the damn dog." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:33:24 -0600, Deanna Schneider > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > You know, I was just thinking about this the other day. My son > > > > > > > > has all > > > > > > > > sorts of stuffed toys and dolls and such. The duck is "duck." > > > > > > > > The baby > > > > > > > > is "baby." The horse is "horse." Etc. I went over to a friends > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > every thing there was named (not that I remember any of the > > > > > > > > names). > > > > > > > > So, I got to thinking - are we weird? We haven't given any of > > > > > > > > his > > > > > > > > things names. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hadn't thought of it in terms of Eastern/Western > > > > > > > > philosophies. But, > > > > > > > > we are much more "let it be" than the neighbors. Hm.... maybe > > > > > > > > we're > > > > > > > > more zen than we knew. ;) Of course, my inital thought was that > > > > > > > > we're > > > > > > > > bad parents who don't engender enough tender caring to even > > > > > > > > bother > > > > > > > > giving his toys names! :P > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:56:42 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL > > > > > > > > PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kevin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Contrast that with Zen Buddhism that is less about > > > > > > > > > > controlling > > > > > > > > > > and labelling and more about accepting things as they come. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Whoa - that's good. If you'd like to expand on that, I'd > > > > > > > > > like to hear > > > > > > > > > it. 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