yeah, self-fulfilling prophecy. I do think you have to be careful to
use the label as an excuse or a reason to avoid thinking <g>


On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 11:22:44 -0500, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the research we did in our lab we had to be very careful about that
> phenomenon. Its known as the good subject confound. Intro psych
> students (the most studied animal on earth aside from rats)  want to
> be very pleasing and cooperative - sort of like puppies y'know.
> Accordingly they are very good at guessing what the experiment's
> purpose is, and respond in such a way that confirms the perceived
> purpose of the study.
> 
> We would go all out to ensure that there was no direct connection to
> our hypnosis research, soliciting people for the questionnaire aspects
> of the study separately, using different researchers for different
> parts of the study etc.
> 
> It makes sense in a way if you think about it. If you're up for a well
> paying job you're more likely to respond to any personality test
> differently than if you were just reading it in a magazine, or on the
> internet, or any other situation.
> 
> larry
> 
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 10:00:15 -0600, Deanna Schneider
> 
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > These tests are often administered in an environment with a very
> > distinct power structure. In other words, if I'm at work, and we all
> > take some personality test, and management tells us it's important to
> > remember what someone's label is in order to work with them more
> > effeciently, well then, by god, I'd better remember it. And, I'd best
> > treat that person accordingly.
> >
> > My personal experience with it was with the "True Colors" program,
> > where everyone receives a ranking of 4 colors (Blue, Gold, Orange,
> > Green). But, what people remember is your "top" color. I was young
> > when I took that job, and came out as an Orange-Green-Blue-Gold. My
> > coworker was a Gold-Green-Blue-Orange. (Note that the two ends are
> > opposites.) I kid you not, whenever we would disagree with each other,
> > he would throw up his arms in disgust and say, "You're so orange!"
> > *sigh* I always felt like responding, "And you're so asshole!"
> >
> > But, when management got involved, they actually supported the idea
> > that our "colors" were the root cause of our issues. Ee gads.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:44:46 -0600, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Kevin wrote:
> > > > Alpha children wear grey. They work much harder than we do, because
> > > > they're so frightfully clever. I'm awfully glad I'm a Beta, because I
> > > > don't work so hard.
> > >
> > > Speaking of Huxley, didn't Stanford do this exact experiment with 5
> > > year olds?  I thought they did and found that the kids begin to
> > > conform to the definitions including discriminating against others
> > > based on the arbitrary assignments.
> > >
> > > Why do you think people fall for the labels then?  I would postulate
> > > that it's because we're all descendants of humans that grouped
> > > together to gather food and defend themselves.  Part of that natural
> > > selection was humans that were wired to fall for the arbitrary "us
> > > good, them bad."  That means we all like labels (well most of us) that
> > > differentiate us.
> > >
> > > which brings us back to politics ...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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