Interestingly, this report came out today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4062067.stm

"In his analysis, Professor Berwick said the US and UK healthcare systems
faced similar problems, including improving safety and reducing medical
errors, making care more effective and efficient, ensuring care focuses on
patients rather than diseases or numbers, reducing waits, and offering
everyone the same access to treatment.

But he said that, if asked to bet on which country will succeed in resolving
them, "my money will be on the UK"."

To be fair there are still problems with the NHS with some old hospitals and
long waiting times for treatment in some areas, but I honestly can't praise
the service my wife has received enough - for example the time taken from
being examined by a Dr to having an MRI scan was less than three hours.

-----Original Message-----
From: dana tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 December 2004 19:24
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: feeling kinda foolish

the question in my mind is, do you prefer cheap or do you prefer
available? In the US access to care is rationed through insurance
coverage and costs. In Canada and in Great Britain the rationing is
more explicit and probably more effective. When it works. Personally,
though... I prefer to have the best available as soon as it is
available. Using CAT scan to detect pulmonary embolism is just now
hitting the journals. Based on my experience of Canadian medecine, I
suspect that in Toronto I would have been given an inhaler and sent
home. The interferon treatment I had over the summer is not yet
available there last I heard. Don't get me wrong.. I think the
Canadian and British systems do well at treating known issues with
established cures. But for finding stuff and treating it
aggressively... the American way is better.

my .02
Dana


On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 10:30:03 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's gotta be cheaper than the US system. Health insurance in this country
> is such an incredible scam. Here's the problem: it's making an awful lot
of
> powerful people/entities awfully rich. Namely, doctors and insurance
> companies.
> 
> Problem is, few would trust our government to be in charge of disbursing
and
> maintaining a general health fund. So I wonder out loud again...how come
the
> whole thing can't be market driven? Why shouldn't a doctor charge what the
> market says the average sick person can afford and will pay?
> 
> This would be considerably less than the 9800 dollars for 30 minutes my
> surgeon charged, that I can gaurantee.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Everyone.
> >
> > For instance in Canada, depending on the province, the money for
> > Medicare (which is the single payer health insurance) comes out of
> > general tax revenue, as in Manitoba, or as part of an annual premium,
> > as in Alberta. In either case on a per person basis its substantially
> > cheaper than the US system, and according to the stats, as good if not
> > better.
> >
> > larry
> >
> >
> 
> 



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