Now that I have time, I will expound.

The schism initiated by Martin Luther's 95 theses and the extremism it
caused is what I was pointing out.  This event was bad for the Roman
Church in a number of ways.  Not because of the dissent, but because of
the extremism it caused on both sides of the issue.  The papal response
to Martin Luther was even worse.  

The Roman Church became more xenophobic and conservative.  It probably
delayed much needed reforms in the Roman Church by 550 years.  It also
forced Martin Luther to work for his reforms outside of the Roman
Church.

Additionally, it encouraged extremists to deepen the rift and caused
reverberations still felt today, c.f. the klan, etc.

Russel Madere
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-----Original Message-----
From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 12:09 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Insane

ah  I misunderstood your point then. I thought you were saying he was
the first dissenter.

Dana


On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:55:34 -0600, Russel Madere
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Protestant Reformation led to the violent persecution of the
> followers of the Roman Canon by other Christians.  Galileo and Joan of
> Arc were both followers of the Roman Canon persecuted by fellow
> followers.
> 
> Russel Madere
> Webmaster
> 504.832.9835
> SunShine Pages by EATEL
> www.sunshinepages.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:57 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Insane
> 
> uh... no it didn't. What about Galileo? Or Joan of Arc? Byzantine?
> 
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:48:53 -0600, Russel Madere
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It all started with Martin Luther.  :)
> >
> > Russel Madere
> > Webmaster
> > 504.832.9835
> > SunShine Pages by EATEL
> > www.sunshinepages.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:23 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Insane
> >
> > My apologies if I was misconstrued. I was not attempting to attack
> > rural Christians or making a universal statement of behavior about
> > individuals. I was commenting on a _perception_ by non-Christians.
> >
> > A hegemony IS a broad brush though. If you yourself are considered
> > apostate, then there is presumably a larger body which is weilding
> > enough sociopolitical power to say so. There are always dissenting
> > individuals and there is still a generalized whole.
> >
> > -Kevin
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:45:29 -0600, Russel Madere
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Kevin,
> > >
> > > You are painting all with the same brush.  Rural Christians are
not
> > > monolithic.
> > >
> > > There are quite a few of us rural Christians that our evangelical
> > > brethren consider apostates because we believe tradition as well
as
> > the
> > > Bible guide our faith.  While we are Christian, we are
marginalized
> in
> > > the "Bible Belt" because of our faith.
> > >
> > > Please be careful where you sling your vindictaves.
> > >
> > > Russel Madere
> > > Webmaster
> > > 504.832.9835
> > > SunShine Pages by EATEL
> > > www.sunshinepages.com
> >
> >
> 
> 



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