> The point is if you were full up in the market and retired in 1963 by
> 1974 you were broke.  Of course the market provides great returns over
> time but:

This would only be possible if during that time you took out the 65%
of your money that the decrease in interest didn't take.  Also,
virtually no-one who's retired has all their money in stocks.  It's
usually almost all in bonds.

> 1.) The market as a whole does, not individual stocks.  Ask Enron
> shareholders who used their options as their retirement plan.

Who said anything about individual stocks?  Anyone who puts their eggs
all in one basket deserves to lose their money.  Show me what part of
this plan requires or even suggests investing in single stocks?

> 2.) Even investing in index funds or ETFs doesn't GUARANTEE you the
> money when you need it.  Only an annuity-type thing does that like
> Social Security.

Social Security is not an Annuity.  An annuity is something you pay
into over time to build up a fund which is then paid out to you at a
sceduled rate over time.  SS does not do this.  See my previous post,
but your money goes right back outta SS.  The "Fund" is not your
savings account.

> 3.) Social Security should be part of 3-part retirement plan: 1 - part
> from social security, 1 - part from Government incented savings like
> 401ks, and 1 - part from your own good fiscal sense (pensions,
> investments, et. al).

Seriously?  You think the govt does a better job with your money than you can?

> The facts I used were to show that a majority of people over 50 have,
> through their own fault, only social security to live on.  If you
> start baking in risk to that you can bet that you're going have
> trouble.

It's definitely a problem.  People over 50 have alot to lose.  I would
certainly not be in support of any plan that eliminated their
benifits.  I don't think the current proposal from Bush suggests that
this happens, so really this is a moot point.

-Cameron

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