I thought she was still getting CF-community in digest mode. if so Monique, we'd love to hear your take on this issue.
larry On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:36:23 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ::nod:: Dayton too come to think of it. I remember some such > reference. However, I just wondered how much experience the people > saying that there was nothing holding blacks back but themselves HAD > with actual real people and real places that would fit into the > discussion. It seems not many. I am curious what Monique would have > thought. Conservative as she was, I don't think she felt there was an > even playing field. > > Dana > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 15:29:03 -0500, Larry C. Lyons > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One thing that people seem to forget is that race and class in this > > country are completely intertwined. To such an extent that they are > > not easily disentangled. If you're black, you're more likely to be > > poor. > > > > That said there are various white subcultures that are actively > > discriminated against in this country. For instance in the Cleveland > > Ohio area, there are AA programs available if you're from the > > Appalachian region. > > > > larry > > > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:18:32 -0700, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > ok wait a minute. I asked for a show of hands on anyone else who had > > > ever had a child in an inner city school, lived in a black > > > neighborhood, or worked in a majority-black setting. I am still > > > hearing crickets chirping. > > > > > > So how about we don't lecture Gel on the politics of race, huh? > > > > > > On the other hand, yes, there are places in America where the > > > educational outlook is just as dim for each and every child. This was > > > my original point. > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:19:30 -0600, Phill B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I realize you live in Trinidad and there is nothing but peace and > > > > harmony. > > > > > > > > I guess discrimination only happens in America. Silly me. I've only > > > > lived here 35 years. I guess you would have a better idea of what is > > > > really going on around me. I got an idea. Move to America and get your > > > > own anecdotal stories. Then you can see what life is really like here. > > > > > > > > You talk about facts referring to whitey keeping minorities down. If > > > > whitey runs every thing, wouldn't it stand to reason that we wouldn't > > > > be offering anything to the minorities? > > > > > > > > How about this. You show me the breakdown of loans, grants and > > > > scholarships provided to students broken out by their race. Then show > > > > me the trends of this information over the last twenty years. Next, we > > > > should cover the minorities owning and operating companies in America > > > > and the trends over the last twenty years. What do you think the > > > > numbers are going to show? > > > > > > > > No sob story here. I don't blame anyone for my down falls in life. I > > > > hold only myself responsible. I'm not the "White America" you are so > > > > ready to blame. > > > > > > > > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 12:38:58 -0400, Angel Stewart > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ? > > > > > Excuse me? > > > > > I'm holding myself down? > > > > > Look boy ketch yuh falling self eh! > > > > > > > > > > I don't live in America, and in Trinidad society circles I'm > > > > > certainly not 'held down' by anything or anyone. > > > > > > > > > > Nice rant btw. Pity it doesn't address the key issues of the debate, > > > > > your anectdotal offerings not withstanding. > > > > > > > > > > The facts say that it is White people who have held and continue to > > > > > try to hold minorities down. > > > > > > > > > > Quit writing your own sob stories that boo hoo I don't get money to > > > > > go to school..boo hoo I don't get scholarships and loans. > > > > > You're only holding yourself down. > > > > > > > > > > Laters, > > > > > -Gel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:144982 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
