ah but is it the spending you want, though.  There's the rub.

Dana


On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:14:56 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've become very tired of this paying too much taxes argument. Its
> simply not the case. Compare what the government takes in and then
> spends per taxpayer  and compare it to other countries, the typical
> taxpayer in the US gets far more per dollar spent in taxes than
> taxpayers in the EU or Japan.
> 
> larry
> 
> 
> On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:28:44 -0600, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Gruss opined:
> > >
> > > The CIA says the answer to that question is yes and I'm going to
> > > assume they know more about this topic than us.
> >
> > Trusting US intelligence agencies is part of the reason we're in this mess
> > :)
> >
> > > My point would be that the reason we should've stayed out of Iraq was
> > > because we can't afford right now.
> >
> > Now that's an argument i 100% agree with.
> >
> > >
> > > Succinctly, the CIA is saying that invading Iraq IS NOT decreasing
> > > terrorism; in fact, it's creating MORE terrorists.  If that's true,
> > > then what has invading Iraq accomplished?
> >
> > I'm not really sure.
> >
> > I'm pondering this analogy:  There is a wasp nest in the barn. Occasionally
> > people get stung. You decide to send in a group of exterminators. They
> > disrupt the wasps. Many wasps are killed, but many escape and go on to sting
> > people. The number of wasp stings goes up sharply in the area. What have you
> > accomplished?
> >
> > Well, you've accomplished a lot if you've addressed a problematic nest that
> > already existed.
> > On the other hand, you've only exacerbated the problem if while distrupting
> > one nest, you've convinced hundreds of wasps to descend on your barn and
> > start their own nests.
> >
> >
> > >There were no WMD and the
> > > CIA says we've got more terrorists than when we started.  And it's
> > > probably going to cost US taxpayers $1 Trillion before it's all done.
> >
> > Iraq wasn't a threat, and we can't afford a war that isn't absolutely
> > necessary. This hits the bullseye for me as to why the war is wrong.
> >
> > >
> > > My point is that you, as a US taxpayer, got royally screwed and will
> > > keep getting screwed as all of Mr. Bush's loans in your name come due.
> > >
> > > Which proves why Mr. Bush is NOT an idiot - he's been peeing on all of
> > > our legs and a majority of the voters believe him when he says it's
> > > raining.
> >
> > Yep.
> >
> > >
> > > But, hey, millionaires are loving their new tax breaks.
> > >
> >
> > Hey, tax breaks are great. All classes pay too many taxes, and by
> > proportion, millionairs are paying WAY too many taxes. The problem is tax
> > breaks can't be accompanied by huge spending explosions!
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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