> -----Original Message----- > From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 1:39 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Gay Marriage( Was: Re: Activist Judges) > > Nope. > > But the relation between male and female organs are what I was > speaking about. The sex relation in general.
Condensing a serious social issue down to "slot A, tab B" just seems ridiculous (and offensive) to me. Does the text-book application of sex really play that large a role in your life? > I don't even know if this is any argument, other than the fact that > the 2 relations are infact different. And, that if it is a part of > marriage (and in general it is a big part of marriage) then using the > word equal doesn't fit with the facts. It is not a big part of "marriage" - it's a big part of relationships, period (whether married or not, committed or not, straight or not). However it is a non-existence part of state-defined marriage in the US. No marriages are "equal" experientially - this isn't a discussion about the equality of the marriage experience (it can't be). My marriage is not "equal" to any other heterosexuals even tho, yes, I sometimes place my penis in my wife's vagina. Why should this specific aspect of sex - the ability to place penis in vagina - change the fundamental definition of marriage while the millions of other differences don't? Why should this force a new definition when the existence or absence of children, social standing, careers, financial stability, location, race, and millions of other things do not? This is an argument about the equality of access and benefits. No sexual requirements exist to get married or to gain the governmental benefits of marriage. Let's remember that that's what we're talking about: state recognized marriage, not religiously-recognized marriage. While some religions have placed a "mulitiply" mandate on their parishioners the state has not. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:148209 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
