I've given up pointing out that fact. Those who are absolutely convinced of the country being founded on "Christian" principles conveniently ignore it or typically weasel out of those uncomfortable facts. Jefferson, Adams and Madison, all used the deist concept of the Blind Watchmaker to describe their ideas of the world and religion.
larry On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 14:13:53 -0600, Russel Madere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hate to tell this guy, but many of our founding fathers were not > Christian. Many, including Thomas Jefferson, were Deist. So he is flat > wrong about a lot of his assertions. > > Russel Madere > Webmaster > 504.832.9835 > SunShine Pages by EATEL > www.sunshinepages.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:08 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Activist Judges (Was: Court allows Schiavo stay to expire) > > You know it would help to include that link I was referencing: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30764-2005Feb16.html > > larry > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 15:05:57 -0500, Larry C. Lyons > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I also included a link to the specific amendment. The wording > > explicitly forces the state to step aside if any Christian group wants > > to preach before kids in school whether the kids like it or not. > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:47:10 -0500, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > Reading the excerpt that was attached to the email, the writer is > talking > > > about being silenced and berated for his faith. That's what I'm > talking > > > about as well. Neither that excerpt nor I ever said the first thing > about > > > forcing beliefs down anyone else's throat, nor anything about > separation > > > between church and state. > > > > > > - Matt Small > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:21 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Activist Judges (Was: Court allows Schiavo stay to > expire) > > > > > > How because the laws prevent Christian beliefs being forced down > > > people's throats? > > > > > > Lets look at persecution, whenever someone has brought up and tried > to > > > enforce the separation of church and state, so-called christians has > > > harrassed them and in one case (the plaintiffs in the most recent > > > Supreme Court case stopping enforced school prayer) were literally > > > driven out of town. > > > > > > The place for religious instruction is not the public school but the > > > home or church. Is the position of your brand of Christianity so > > > fragile that you need to force it down the throats of all children > in > > > school? > > > > > > larry > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:45:33 -0500, Matthew Small > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I agree with him... Christians are persecuted for their beliefs. > I'm not > > > > going to tell you what to believe, but people at every turn are > telling > > > > Christians that they are crazy, stupid and wrong for their beliefs > and > > > that > > > > they should shut up. Kind of like you just did (by calling him a > nut). > > > > > > > > - Matt Small > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:37 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Activist Judges (Was: Court allows Schiavo stay to > expire) > > > > > > > > Christians are being silenced and persecuted in this country? > > > > > > > > This guy is a nut. > > > > > > > > But hey, I just read the good news today: the Kansas Board of > Uneducation > > > is > > > > > > > > putting evolution on trial! For 10 days people from the science > camp, and > > > > people from the Independent Demagogues Ignoring Obvious Truth, or > IDIOT, > > > get > > > > > > > > to argue as to whether the basic fundamental principle of > biological > > > > science, evolution, should be taught in biology classes. > > > > > > > > In a related story, math classes will no longer include > discussions of the > > > > "theory" of arithmetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40623-2005Feb20?language=print > er > > > > > "CHARLES W. Carrico Sr., a Virginia lawmaker, has decided to > rewrite > > > > > the Founding Fathers. Mr. Carrico, a state > > > > > trooper-turned-Republican-delegate from Grayson County in > southwestern > > > > > Virginia, says he believes Christians are being silenced and > > > > > persecuted. "America was founded on Christian beliefs," he > proclaims. > > > > > "Christianity is the majority faith in this country, and yet > because > > > > > the minority has said, 'I'm offended,' we are being told to keep > > > > > silent." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:148289 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
