Yay! As an atheist, white, heterosexual I'm safest from hate crimes! Jim Davis
> -----Original Message----- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:28 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Activist Judges (Was: Court allows Schiavo stay to expire) > > Christians being persecuted for their faith. That is a piece of crap. > > Lets do a comparison of how many Christian churches have been > firebombed in the last 3 years just because of the church being a > Christian church, and lets compare that to the number of mosques or > synagogues that have sufffered the same treatment. Or the number of > people who were attacked simply because they are Christian compared to > those similary attacked because they are moslem jewish or other group, > from the 2003 preliminary FBI hate crimes report. Similar results are > found for nearly every year since these crimes have been tracked. > > "Law enforcement reported that 1,426 single-bias hate crime offenses > resulted from a religious bias: 69.2 percent were an anti-Jewish bias, > 10.9 percent were an anti-Islamic bias, 8.3 percent were an anti-other > (unspecified) religion bias, 5.5 percent were an anti-Catholic bias, > 3.5 percent were an anti-Protestant bias, and 0.9 percent were an > anti-atheism/agnosticism bias. Nearly 2 percent (1.8) of > anti-religious hate crime offenses in 2003 were due to a bias against > groups of individuals of varying religions (multiple religions, > group). (Based on Table 1.) > > http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/03hc.pdf > > > Here's the summary for the 2002 statistics: > > "Anti-Jewish bias accounted for 65.9 percent of the 1,576 reported > offenses rooted in religious bias. Anti-Islamic bias made up 10.8 > percent of these types of offenses, and bias against other, > unspecified religious groups (anti-other religion) made up 13.8 > percent. Of the remainder, 3.7 percent of the offenses were > anti-Catholic, 3.6 percent were anti-Protestant, 2.0 percent were > against groups made up of multiple religions (anti-multiple religions, > group), and 0.2 percent were anti-atheism or anti-agnosticism. (Based > on Table 1.)" > http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/hatecrime2002.pdf"; > > By these stats (which the FBI admit are serverly underestimated) hate > crime victims are much more likely to be jewish or moslem, catholic or > any other belief system than Protestant. > > Some persecution. > > Sorry but that victim whine simply doesn't cut it. > > larry > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:47:10 -0500, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Reading the excerpt that was attached to the email, the writer is > talking > > about being silenced and berated for his faith. That's what I'm talking > > about as well. Neither that excerpt nor I ever said the first thing > about > > forcing beliefs down anyone else's throat, nor anything about separation > > between church and state. > > > > - Matt Small > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:21 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Activist Judges (Was: Court allows Schiavo stay to expire) > > > > How because the laws prevent Christian beliefs being forced down > > people's throats? > > > > Lets look at persecution, whenever someone has brought up and tried to > > enforce the separation of church and state, so-called christians has > > harrassed them and in one case (the plaintiffs in the most recent > > Supreme Court case stopping enforced school prayer) were literally > > driven out of town. > > > > The place for religious instruction is not the public school but the > > home or church. Is the position of your brand of Christianity so > > fragile that you need to force it down the throats of all children in > > school? > > > > larry > > > > On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:45:33 -0500, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I agree with him... Christians are persecuted for their beliefs. I'm > not > > > going to tell you what to believe, but people at every turn are > telling > > > Christians that they are crazy, stupid and wrong for their beliefs and > > that > > > they should shut up. Kind of like you just did (by calling him a nut). > > > > > > - Matt Small > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:37 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Activist Judges (Was: Court allows Schiavo stay to > expire) > > > > > > Christians are being silenced and persecuted in this country? > > > > > > This guy is a nut. > > > > > > But hey, I just read the good news today: the Kansas Board of > Uneducation > > is > > > > > > putting evolution on trial! For 10 days people from the science camp, > and > > > people from the Independent Demagogues Ignoring Obvious Truth, or > IDIOT, > > get > > > > > > to argue as to whether the basic fundamental principle of biological > > > science, evolution, should be taught in biology classes. > > > > > > In a related story, math classes will no longer include discussions of > the > > > "theory" of arithmetic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40623- > 2005Feb20?language=printer > > > > "CHARLES W. Carrico Sr., a Virginia lawmaker, has decided to rewrite > > > > the Founding Fathers. Mr. Carrico, a state > > > > trooper-turned-Republican-delegate from Grayson County in > southwestern > > > > Virginia, says he believes Christians are being silenced and > > > > persecuted. "America was founded on Christian beliefs," he > proclaims. > > > > "Christianity is the majority faith in this country, and yet because > > > > the minority has said, 'I'm offended,' we are being told to keep > > > > silent." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:148290 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
