Canada is an ally of the United States but that does not mean it has
to agree with every one of its harebrained ideas. Not wanting a bad
missile system on your soil does not mean you don't intend to fulfill
your actual treaty obligations.

Dana


On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:37:25 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How is this sucking up to a bully? Canada signed a defense agreement. They
> are backing away from their signed word because of (as some see it), world
> opinion. I see no bully here. I see a country announcing that they do not
> intend to honor their word. How is the US bullying Canada?
> As for SDI, don't always believe everything you see in the media. There's a
> LOT going on that the media will never see till its used and we all know
> where it'll be used first (just not when).
> 
> 
> > Its not that being a real friend to the US is no longer cool. No its
> > more like SDI just doesn't work, even when the test was rigged for it
> > to succeed. Broken thing not cool. It also doesn't help that the US
> > has been bullying Canada over this. Last I checked sucking up to a
> > bully is also not cool.
> >
> > larry
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:17:36 -0500, Tony Weeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> i personally think its sad that our neighbors to the north are kinda
> >> backing down from their us affiliation partly because its no longer cool
> >> to be friends with the us.  fuck if it wasnt for us... canada might be
> >> russian right
> >> now... and that wouldnt be good either...
> >>
> >> tw
> >>
> >> On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:04:01 -0500, Larry C. Lyons
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > So you think that there is no such thing as sovereignty and air
> >> > rights. Also in that case I guess that the arguments the US put
> >> > forward since the 50's regarding control of US air space was specious
> >> > - hey the aircraft/missile was over 10 feet from the ground.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:20:41 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > If a missile launched at America is over Canada, then I believe it is
> >> > > not
> >> > > only allowed but required to shoot it down. We're not talking a
> >> > > missile at
> >> > > 10 feet over the ground. When it's over Canada, it's miles up. When
> >> > > it's
> >> > > over the Arctic, it's miles up and not over Canada.
> >> > > We're talking lives here. We're talking a specific situation where
> >> > > lives are
> >> > > at risk. When it comes to saving lives, I say screw airspace! save
> >> > > people
> >> > > before political posturing.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > So its OK to violate another nation's sovereignty whenever you want
> >> > > > and with no consequences. I guess the converse would also be true,
> >> > > > other nations can violate US airspace at will then without
> >> > > > consequences.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Typical US attitude - screw the rest of the world, especially your
> >> > > > allies. Real brilliant.It will get to the point that the only US
> >> > > > allies will be paid.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > As for the missile tracks - remember where a good third of the
> >> > > > ICBM's
> >> > > > are based, and how many of those russian nukes are really
> >> > > > controlled
> >> > > > by Moscow.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > larry
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 11:33:39 -0500, Michael Dinowitz
> >> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > >> OK, so we either have to keep the Canadians happy or we can save
> >> > > >> our
> >> > > >> rears. I go for the latter. Screw diplomacy, save my hide!
> >> > > >> http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/news/nation/10997668.htm
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> (though chances are we'll never see a missile attack come through
> >> > > >> Canadian air space and they know it. Just posturing)
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 

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