It is indeed a great opportunity. Plus you might be able to tell him that you need an experienced otherlanguage developer to help you ease the transition. That makes learning fun when you have an expert at hand to ask questions.
It seems clear to me at this point that knowing only coldfusion and sql is a marked disadvantage in the job market place. DRE On Apr 1, 2005 6:26 AM, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My take on this is that now you have the opportunity to learn a completely > new set of technology skills at no cost and with the added bonus of being > able to say "I'm not sure, but I can figure it out" without detrimental > effect and also to say "I need some training." Without a college degree, > you should be looking to increase your skill set at every opportunity. > > - Matt Small > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Ketsdever [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:16 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: My Worst Nightmare Just Came True > > I think you can take it a step further. > > There are more than a few IT managers who moved into IT from accounting, the > Lab, etc... Who have little to no formal training and are therefore unable > to make intelligent decisions on their own. Instead someone in upper > management says he heard from "a guy on an airplane that Coldfusion wasn't > what you want for web projects you really need to use html and xml". Then > some other upper level manager says he heard .net is the wave of the future > .... > > The mid level manager doesn't have enough IT knowledge, let alone web > knowledge to make an argument and is more interested in self preservation so > he/she goes along with the changes for no other reason than upper management > heard from a guy on an airplane. > > I know this sounds ridiculous. Ask Ian how close it is to a situation we > ran up against. We now have a .net guy (nice guy) in house as the start of > a migration to .NET because of this airplane guy. > > However, I think we are converting the .net guy more than he is impressing > anyone with the advantages of .NET > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:48 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: My Worst Nightmare Just Came True > > >Well, this morning, that came true for me. I was told we don't have the > >budget for CF Enterprise (even though we just got a $15,000,000 grant > >last year and are purchasing a $2-3,000,000 business system) so CF is on > >its way out in the next year. > > I at least have been able to get CF purchased, but the "we've got no money" > thing gets so old when the group is dropping six and seven figures on > enterprise bloatware projects. > > I have a theory about this dynamic. All these old school IT managers and > execs came from the world of client server, ERP systems- IT as the back > office application masters, basically. That is what they know. They don't > know jack squat about the Internet or the Web- they just plain don't get it. > > As a result of their ignorance and lack of experience in the Web sector, > they make bad decisions. They are still back in a time warp in 1998, > believing that it's OK to spend a million dollars implementing an ERP > system, but the Web stuff should all be free. Those kinds of folks are > useless to me. > > I have been thinking about writing a white paper that is basically a polemic > against enterprise software and the narrow-minded old school thinking of so > many senior IT people. Of course, I work for an enterprise software company, > so my paper might not go over that well at the office. Too bad, it needs to > be said. > > >The office of university relations has been wanting us to get a content > >management system CMS so we can better distribute content chores to > >different departments rather than tying up the web developers. > > > >Well, to counter that, my manager said, we will use Microsoft's > >Sharepoint Portal server. "It is an excellent CMS application!" > > This is exactly the kind of thing I am talking about. He has no idea what > the hell he is talking about. He probably read a review in Computerworld, > and that was good enough for him. > > > > >Now, we are getting three large web-based applications, all built in > >Java or MS technology, dropping ColdFusion and yet the number of > >application requests continue to increase. Wait until we get our > >business system running. Then, requests will skyrocket. > > > >So, that leaves me at point-zero with Java, people jumping on my ass to > >get development requests built using technology no one at our campus has > >ever seen, and little to no budget for training or other resources. > >(Except we have a coupon for an IBM Java class or two.) > > > >It just really seems unrealistic to totally dump all the CF knowledge, > >start at nothing with Java and still expect to get more work done than > >ever before. > > I sympathize with your plight. Funny how "free" becomes "very expensive" > when it comes time to configure large Web applications like Sharepoint > Portal. > > >I don't really expect any replies about the justifications of CF vs > >other technologies. It won't help. This guy came from IBM and is very > >deep in MS's ass as well. MS hung the moon and lit the stars, if you > >know what I mean. > > >Now, I have to try to figure out how to get three totally-different web > >portals, running on different application servers and physical servers, > >to appear as a single entity. > > Look for a new job tomorrow. If you had another opportunity and you told > your boss you were leaving, how do you think he would react? What if you > shared, in the best possible way, the story you just related here and told > him you were thinking about looking for another opportunity that better fit > your skills? Would he be upset? Would he try to convince you to stay? Forget > about, "this technology v. that technology". Your fight is about leverage > and who has it. > > If he would freak out at the thought of you leaving, then you've hooked him > and you just need to reel him in. If he would not care, you need to get out > of there asap because he doesn't value your contribution. The good news is > that the economy is generally improving and there are CF jobs in the market. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Studio MX with Flash Pro from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=51 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:152581 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
