> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 10:32 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: just plain wrong
> 
> Oh, there are some really nasty kids out there, for sure. I still
> remember an incident involving a ten year old I picked up by the
> scruff of the neck. He had been punching my son, who was three at the
> time. The mother's take was that my son must have done something to
> deserve it and who was I to lay hands on her son? I didn't do anything
> to him but stop him from hitting a child less than half his age, mind
> you. So yes, such families are out there, and not all children are
> innocent.

For the most part (with one really nasty exception) the troubled kids I
dealt with had uniformly excellent families (one aspect of the program I was
in was heavy parental involvement).  It's worth noting that ANYBODY can have
a troubled child.  Some kids are definitely "made" while others are
definitely "born".

> But if the training was helpful to you, perhaps it would be to most
> teachers, especially if mainstreaming continues to be the norm.And
> before someone chimes in to tell me how much training teachers must
> already have for how little pay, I think the low pay is an issue too.

Most teachers could get all of the training that I had for free in most
areas (either the Red Cross or the local Mental Health Association usually
offers it).  These associations often have free classes (or at least severe
discounts) for teachers.

The training is also pretty short - none of my certifications took more than
five classes to get (I think the longest was a 15-hour course for advanced
First Aid).  You then have to keep up with the certs (at least when I did it
Pediatric CPR was a one year cert and advanced first aid a three year cert).

I believe that all teachers (at least in New York and Massachusetts) have to
undergo basic Mandated Reporter training (since they're legally
responsible).  At the time of my training I continued to be a mandated
reporter as long as I worked with kids.  You could take a yearly "brush up"
course, but whether you did or didn't you remained responsible.

Teachers are like any other professionals: there are a lot of opportunities
for certifications, additional training, publishing opportunities, corollary
skill-sets, etc that help you to excel at your job and look great on a
resume.  ;^)

If we're talking about mandatory training then I would expect teachers to be
provided that training at no cost through the board of education.  I agree
completely that teachers in general are woefully underpaid (teachers around
here make about a third what I do as a programmer - that's just criminal).

Jim Davis





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