<quote>
go dig ditches, start there.  just get off your ass.
</quote>

And how many ditches are dug by hand anymore?  I believe that vast majority of 
ditches are done with a backhoe, which I'm sure takes some training of some 
sort, that the average homeless will not have, nor have the resources to get, 
before getting a job.

Besides all the other problems mentioned, there are just so much less 
opportunities for somebody with no training or education to be gainfully 
employed.  I would like to know how many of those who try, by going to the 
places where one can pick up unskilled day labors, somewhat above board, go 
away unselected because there where more laborers available then positions 
available that day.

In the end, just dismissing them with the "go get a job bum" just does no 
service to the complexity or the magnitude of the problem.  And probably is 
just a copout to not do anything to understand and possible do something about 
it.

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Ian Skinner
Web Programmer
BloodSource
www.BloodSource.org
Sacramento, CA
 
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....-----Original Message-----
....From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
....Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:18 AM
....To: CF-Community
....Subject: Re: Begging on the streets (was Re: Top 10 Super Rant (was
....Friday Rant))
....
....> That just makes it painfully obvious how much you don't know about
....> homelessness.
....
....nope, not one bit, but go get a job.  ditch digging is hiring.
....
....>
....> > fuck, monster.com has more jobs than one could imagine.
....>
....> Not for homeless people.
....
....nope, probably not, but again, go dig ditches, start there.  just get
....off your ass.
....
....>
....> > point is... i have no idea what its like to be
....> > homeless, none whatsoever, but i get more angry and
....> > more violent from the sight of a person sitting on a
....> > corner begging than i do for most social injustices.
....> > GET UP GO FIND WORK and i BET that people will be
....> > more willing to help you.  Sit on your tuckus, and
....> > you will most likely find yourself sitting there
....> > forever.
....>
....> Yes it's better for them to have something to do to earn some cash,
....> but there aren't better options than pan-handling for _every_ one of
....> them. Are you going to give every one of them a job? If not then shut
....> up and stop blaming them for their misfortune.
....
....there's where you went off tangent.  HOW ABOUT YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP?
....
....> Yes, some of them will
....> sit there forever out of lack of motivation (it's easy enough to be
....> depressed when you have a home), but many of them will simply not have
....> the necessary opportunities to get themselves out of homelessness,
....> just like many crippled children didn't have the opportunities Hellen
....> Keller had.
....
....and.  go get a job.  start somewhere.
....
....>
....> s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080
....> new epoch : isn't it time for a change?
....>
....> add features without fixtures with
....> the onTap open source framework
....>
....> http://www.fusiontap.com
....> http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm
....>
....>
....
....

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