My company uses MVC.  I got irritated because one of us, my ex-boss,
tended to get frustrated with client changes and revert to sticking
queries any old place (as an example) and some of our outsourcers didn't
really understand and came up with their own standards.  Fortunately,
the outsourcers mostly stuck to those admittedly odd methods.  But there
ends my gripe session about it.

I, for one, love using MVC.  Even if I forget precicely where a bit of
code is, I can narrow it down fast.  I can also put a new "face" on a
project so much faster than when it was all stirred together.

I've not looked at OnTap in maybe a year (sorry Issac) but remember that
it was interesting.  However, it seemed like overkill for most of the
sites we do, and getting all our programmers to stick to one standard
was enough.  Getting them to stick to two would have been murder!

--Ben

Yves Arsenault wrote:
> Right on....
> 
> I've been looking at using Model-Glue lately.
> 
> I've never used MVC yet but I think it would be better on a few levels....
> 
> Have 1 other guy coding with me, need to establish more concrete
> standards between us.. I think it would improve productivity a little.
> 
> I was also looking at the OnTap framework about a month ago... saw the
> Breeze presentation and it certainly peaked my interest.
> 
> Yves
> 
> 
> On 6/18/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Looking at MVC on the sun site right now.
>>
>>So much has changed since I left so I am playing catch up some.  I am going
>>to try and architect an ASP modeled generic 'myspace' type site in FB4.1 and
>>mvc using sql 7 and cf 7 in order to catch back up some.
>>
>>Figure I can create a few different views (mobile, html, prolly flash forms
>>or something else).
>>
>>So really I am studying everything from application and db design (what's
>>little has changed while I was gone), css/dhtml on the newer browsers, FB4.1
>>and MVC, and more advanced T-SQL stuff.
>>
>>Should actually be some fun, but I am having a hard time kicking off.  I
>>would like to find something that would let me do my wireframing and then
>>produce at least the click through pages for my prototype, preferably
>>something in fusebox, so I don't have to start all over when design time
>>turns to dev time.
>>
>>We'll see how it goes.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Yves Arsenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 9:56 PM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Re: who's on
>>
>>
>>I am logged in to a remote server setting up a little 'CF_Thingy' for
>>someone...
>>
>>What are you studying?
>>
>>I was on  a road trip today and fell asleep in a Java book...
>>
>>Yves
>>
>>On 6/18/05, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Another late night studying and catching back up to where I used to be.
>>>
>>>Anyone else around?
>>>
>>>Tim
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 

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