> If you were following along you'd know that whenever Gruss uses > numbers they're usually made up or he overheard them somewhere. I have > no idea if what he said was true or made up. Looking for something to > back it up. > As I said "Do they need to be at the same levels they were at before > the Taliban fell?" > > Why are you so obnoxious?
The levels of soldiers in Afghanistan at the time that the Taliban fell were as small as 50-100 members of SF teams. They were there backing up the Northern Alliance. The invasion and subsequent use of conventional forces such as the 101st Airborne, and the 10th Mountain Division did not occur until after the Taliban left the cities and headed for the mountains. I am obnoxious when people who have never served in uniform, people who have never heard a shot fired in anger try and tell people how military policy should be set up, how we should respond to threats, and imagined threats. > > > By studying do you really mean, "Believe the biased Pew polls"? > > > > Have you traveled internationally in the last few years? I > have, and not > > only for the Army, but going to Europe for the State Dept. Ask > an Italian > > off the street what they think of our policies sometime. > > Yes I have and Have, same as here it depends on whom you ask. Ever > been to France? They never liked Americans or anyone else for that > matter. Ok, so the French always hated us, and now everyone else does too. > > > > Yes, the dumb ones die, are replaced by 2 more and the > smart ones pass > > > > along the technology to Bin Laden. > > > > > > Are you saying that in war only the dumb ones die? That's an extremely > > > obnoxious thing to say and I hope you apologize for it. > > > > It's called lessons learned. Your force learns TTPs (Tactics, > Techniques > > and Procedures). You get better and better at what you're doing. > > Unless you die and that means you're dumb? You of all people should be > upset with that statement. No, it's a craps shot. Smart people make mistakes, and sometimes, there is no mistake it just happens. The ones who live do learn from the ones that didn't though. > > Really? It's the same people doing the same sort of security > operations. > > State, CIA, FBI, HS, all these different federal agencies running force > > protection ops around the world, all running from the same play > book. You > > don't think they might notice a pattern in there somewhere? > > Are you seriously comparing the streets of Baghdad with NYC or LA. Am > I missing something? When you talk about force protection and facilities security? Yes I am comparing them. We secure buildings here in much the same way as we do over there, road blocks, cement pylons to block entry, alarms and so on. > > > We would have won Kennedy's Vietnam War if it weren't for Fonda, Kerry > > > and people like you. > > > > Or we could have pushed the soviets into a corner and caused WW 3. You > > can't back up a statement like that. > > Yeah I can: > Davis Hanson from the September 2003 American Legion Magazine: > > Gen. Giap, in a series of postbellum interviews, confessed that the > North Vietnamese were ready to cease aggression under the weight of > the 1972 and 1973 bombing campaigns. He then directly associated the > reprieve with the welcome efforts of the radical antiwar movement. > Indeed he told French television that his most important guerrilla > ally during the war was the American press. The Vietnam News Agency as > early as 1966 wrote "We praise the American peace champions. The > movement of the American people to protest the war of aggression has > really become the second front against the U.S. imperialists." Another > communist official, Bui Tinh, claimed that Fonda's Hanoi visits, press > releases and much publicized photo-ops in enemy batteries had helped > the communists "to hold on in the face of battlefield reverses." And this tells us what the soviet's response would have been where? > > What about Indonesia? What about the Philippines? What about > the Sudan, > > Afghanistan, Saudi, Egypt, Yemen? Are we going to invade everyone? > > Aren't we in Afghanistan? > Hopefully these countries will change their ways. Don't hold your breath. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:162692 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
