S.Isaac Dealey wrote:
> So... I'm sorry if some of you find this beyond the pale for the list,
> but you know, the HOF community lately is my only social outlet (as
> sad as that sounds), because my social groups in south Florida eroded
> while I was away last year.

Dude, anytime you need a bitch session, or a friend to back you up, or
whatever, just IM me.  Whatt're pals for, right?

> with. Tiff is subscribed to a number of poly mailing lists and
> yesterday someone posted an introduction on one of those lists saying
> they were poly and providing a link to their site/profile/whatever...
> So Tiff checked it out and it's all about sex/swinging -- the term
> polyamory (or any variation) isn't mentioned anywhere, just sex, sex
> and some more sex. So rather than lambast them (which happens to
> swingers who wander on to the wrong poly lists), Tiff sent a reply
> saying simply that it was a poly list and that as such they weren't
> very likely to receive the kind of response ("hey, ya wanna hook up?")
> they were likely interested in from that list. Apparently someone else

Sounds like a kind, reasoned response to me.  I dont' see anything wrong
with letting people know they're barking up the wrong tree.

> My impression of a poly gathering so far is that bunch of unfuckables
> are coming together to prove their worth. Cuz if they  know they are

So....  Why are you on this list again?  I know *I* wouldn't fuck
someone with that attitude, regardless of gender or physical assets.  So
where does he get off insulting others?

> sexy, why stop when chemistry is right? Do we want to  limit ourselves
> by definitions? Or do we want our love to be  unlimited? Who can
> distinguish the purpose of sex from the purpose  of relating? How can

Ooh, ooh!  I can!  I can relate to people without getting my rocks off.
  You know, like my Dad, my friends, basically anyone of the male
persuasion.   I can get my rocks off without relating.  I call this
"masturbation".  I particularly like getting my rocks off with people I
relate to.

> one relate to another without the ultimate  closeness of genital
> contact? My brain hurts from these questions  and too much tequilla...
> Cudos to all of you who know me in bed and yet did not form a
> relationship.. Next life, maybe..

Well, I like to talk.  You know, about things like philosohy, religion,
math, and cartoons.  Unless we're talking about the mathematics of the
philosophy of demons in hentai, genitals don't usually come into play
here.  Maybe if you had a sober conversation with someone without trying
to jump their bones, you might get it.  Not that there's anything wrong
with being horny, mind you.

> I dunno... it just seems to me like any reasonable person with a

See, there's your mistake, Ike.  You want "reasonable," when this person
(to me) has adaquately demonstrated that they aren't.

> and although I'm not sexually attracted to _any_ of the
> afforementioned men (no offense guys, you're just not my type. :) I

Back off guys.  He's mine.
/me ducks and runs

> No wonder so many self-identified "poly people" have that knee-jerk
> response to swingers... <sigh>

I think it goes beyond that.  I would guess that part of the problem is
that so many people outside the poly lifestyle don't know the
difference.  People hear that you date others while having a serious
relationship with Tiff, and assume the point is that you just like
jumping in the sack with other people.  I know that's not accurate.  You
know that's not accurate.  But I bet it's irritating anyway.

That's just a guess, though.  :-)


Hey?  Where'd this soapbox come from?  And why am I standing on it?

--Ben


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