Michael,

Why do you insist on basing your discussions of the world on the pin-prick
sized appeture of television? Television news is manufacured, processed,
produced, packaged and cosumed like soap, nike sneakers or the friends
sit-com. Don't you think it would be wiser to consider that perhaps there
more people in the world with even more diverse oppinions than those
clinically selected (with specific intention) and represented by corporate
journalists?

How can you generalise a population of millions/billions based a short  clip
of footage engineered by western journalists with a western narrative aired
by the western mass media?

Don't you think that there are more important issues to deal with than
spending your intellectual efforts fosering hatred of  'other people' who
have their own culture, unique and idiosyncratic - seperate from ours. Of
course there are many people in the world who would have celebrated the
attacks due to their own oppressed poor militarised existences. But this
does not mean that we should expend effort trying to prove to each other
that 'they' are evil and against 'us'.

The western media is at best, extrodinatily limited in it's representation
of 'real people' in the middle east (or media east as it's exists for us).
Furthermore, it's representation is more often designed to promote this kind
of discussion by manufacture of 'stories' (one of these being the
celebrating Palistinians, another being the oppression of women in
Aphganistan for example). These stories are the developed and made self
referencial, repeated over and over by all media outlets until they become
the measure of oppinion polls on presidencial popularity. There simplify
polarize and synthasize politics and culture for the fast food culture that
is America.

Benjamin




----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(


> 1. There were a LOT more than 1 woman and 5 kids. There were PA police
> taking camera's away from reporters to avoid the news from it. There were
> letters of protest from the AP and Reuters over it. I know people who live
> in Israel and have first hand reports as do many others.
> 2. The rumor that it was old footage was debunked. It started with a
> student in Argentina and spread. It was real footage.
> 3. I don't condemn any Palestinian for the actions of some truly sick
> people who take pride and happiness in the suffering of others.
>
>
> >As or your second quesion...
> >First, that clip of a women dancing and five kids
> >clapping there hands, I wouldnt realy know how that is
> >considred 'my people', last time i checked, the
> >Palestinian population was not reprented by a women
> >and 5 kids, and yes, a car passing by blowings its
> >horn...Second, CNN, which first aired the clip, was
> >and still is accused of airing an old clip which was
> >taking during the Iraq war, except , sadly, no media
> >outlet would ever let the story run, nor deny or
> >confirm the reports....
> >
> >Now i dont know if that is right or wrong, I do
> >believe that YES, its very possible that there does
> >exist a palestinian women who danced in the streets,
> >and its so re-assuring that a camera somehow found her
> >dancing and aired her image, two hours after the
> >incident.....I would think there would be more
> >pressing issues at that time,but i guess a Palestinian
> >women supposedly dancing in the streets of
> >Palestine,is more important than the those tens and
> >thousands of casualties and the chaos that was
> >happening here..
> >
> >I guess the Palestinians where just about to get there
> >independence and your blessings, and this women came
> >and screwed everything up for us!!!
> >
> >BTW, the women was kinda a heavy set, so i wouldnt
> >realy call it "Jumping up for Joy", the poor old lady
> >could barely walk, but she was eating sweets, which
> >does probably translate to her as jumping up for
> >joy!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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