momo,
kicking butt is far different than iradicating

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mo mo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 9:17 AM
> To:   CF-Community
> Subject:      RE: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
> 
> Like I said before, its totally wrong to kill innocent
> Israelis, and innocent Palestinians, and people
> throwing rocks and expressing rage, does not justify
> them being killed, and there are a lot of people, way
> more than 600 Palestinians killed, most innocent
> people, and not all of them are participating in
> protests(which now seems to justify you being
> killed).......there are no innocent people in that
> country, everyone is guilty or everyone is
> innocent...you cant come to a camps,assasinate who you
> want, blow up peoples houses in the name of security,
> shoot, kill and injure protesters, and then drive over
> to the other side, and party and go shopping and
> dance, and then cry when someone does something on
> your side......It has to be peace for all, or no
> peace....
> 
> "Aren't these Palestinian 'women and children' sent by
> their parents etc.
> into the midst of the protests to throw stones?"
> 
> What mother would send her kids to die ? people say
> that so easily like its so true....its really very sad
> to even suggest that, please show me some proof of
> this if it is true...what, because its Palestinians,
> the mother does not care for her kids as much as
> Americans or Jews or anyone else does ?, or is it
> because you have kids fighting men with machine guns,
> they must be getting paid somehow...what happened to
> fighting for something you believe in....I personally
> think its crazy, but I guess I don't know how those
> people are living any more..
> 
> "The palestinian extremists SEND CHILDREN to attack
> Israeli troops just to
> influence folks like you" -  your source would be
> truly appreciated...
> 
> "What are children doing throwing stones at Soldiers
> on the streets?" - No comments on this, no words can
> ever get my point across.....
> 
> Israel did have peace in the name of RABIN, except,
> like there are people against peace on the
> Palestinians side, there are people against peace on
> the Israeli side, RABIN was assassinated by a an
> Israeli group.......with RABINS death, died
> peace.....he gave Palestinians at least a hope of a
> future state, and there was no violence for a few
> years....
> 
> .Now no one trust no one.....
> 
> >>> No one discussed the "means" of getting rid of
> Palestinians.
> 
> "Which country is the most powerful nation in the
> world? America.
> If we had let the Indian's survive or let them stay in
> the land we 
> occupied, like the Israelis let the "Palestinians"
> stay in 68 after they 
> took over the occupied territories (another analogy),
> then we would be 
> fighting Indian terrorists right now.
> The winners write the history books, not the
> compromisers. Every single 
> American today is an American because we killed all of
> the Indians."
> 
> "They should have kicked the
> Arab's butt's a long time ago like we did the Indians.
> America was founded
> by Puritans from England, Israel was founded by Jews
> from England"
> 
> --- Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Actually, the same is said about Israeli deaths.
> > Unless its a big thing, 
> > there's no news. A professor shot in his car. No
> > news. Mortor attacks every 
> > night. No news. It's just common now and the media
> > has bigger stories.
> > 
> > At 12:30 PM 12/4/01, you wrote:
> > >Momo,
> > >I dont' think anyone implied or feels that any
> > persons life is worth more
> > >than anothers.  No one discussed the "means" of
> > getting rid of Palestinians.
> > >
> > >
> > >The media has long since stopped making a big deal
> > about the deaths of
> > >palestinians because its a common event - however,
> > quite frankly, its quite
> > >easy to stop the palestinians deaths.  Stop the
> > palestinian terrorism.
> > >
> > >other comments inline
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mo mo [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 7:02 AM
> > > > To:   CF-Community
> > > > Subject:      RE: Massive blasts rock Central
> > Jerusalem :(
> > > >
> > > > This is the first time I say anything on this
> > list, I
> > > > usually just enjoy reading the posts when I get
> > a
> > > > chance, and use it get some CF help which is why
> > im on
> > > > this list in the first place.
> > > >
> > > > But the recent posts, especially the ones
> > discussing
> > > > means of eliminating the Palestinians, and if it
> > is ok
> > > > to use Biological weapons and going through the
> > > > history of who used it and why should Israel use
> > it,or
> > > > what should Israel have done,  and what means
> > did
> > > > other countries use,  and all that good
> > stuff..well,
> > > > im a Palestinian and if anyone is really series
> > about
> > > > there remarks and want to act on them, you need
> > not
> > > > look too far, bring it on....and this is by no
> > means
> > > > an aggression towards anyone, just a feeling of
> > anger
> > > > hearing people discuss or suggest or justify
> > ways for
> > > > eliminating me and my family and my people...
> > > >
> > > > What happens in Palestine or Israel its very
> > tragic,
> > > > on both sides...not just when innocent Israeli's
> > die,
> > > > but also when innocent Palestinians die..
> > > >
> > >BAF:  I don't think anyone disagrees, with this,
> > although I have less
> > >respect for the life of a terrorist (that has no
> > respect for the lives of
> > >others) than I do for another person.
> > >
> > > > .Of course
> > > > I'm not implying that a Palestinians life is of
> > equal
> > > > value of an Israeli life, God forbid I think
> > that ,
> > > > when  Israeli die, its front line news, live
> > coverage,
> > > > breaking news, interviews, you would think it
> > just
> > > > happened in your local city or neighborhood, and
> > not
> > > > in an area of the world where there is killings
> > > > everyday,  but that's the way it is,and that's
> > what
> > > > sells......
> > > >
> > >BAF:  Not sure what country you are in, but quite
> > frankly in most countries
> > >in the past year or so the Palestinians have gotten
> > great press and the
> > >media sentiment has turned very favorable towards
> > them, as far as I can see.
> > >
> > > > .5 kids got blown into small pieces a  week
> > > > while going to school by an army bomb, CNN gave
> > it
> > > > less than a minute coverage and it was an old
> > > > story.....and I sure don't remember any one on
> > this
> > > > list mentioning it.......no one cares to know
> > how and
> > > > why a palestinian get killed, its just an
> > automatic
> > > > assumption that they were throwing rocks
> > protesting
> > > > occupation, as if occupation is such a good
> > thing and
> > > > the Palestinians are just so darn stupid that
> > they
> > > > don't know it...
> > > >
> > >BAF:  Are you saying that the Palestinian
> > extremeists dont' send kids to
> > >throw rocks at Israeli troops?  Because of course
> > they do.  Its sad even
> > >then - sad when children are used as pawns and
> > sadder when they die, but
> > >quite frankly its inexcusable.  You dont' use
> > children to fight your war to
> > >try and manipulate the world.  And quite frankly if
> > you do do such things,
> > >it becomes difficult to feel horrible when children
> > do die walking to school
> > >because we can't know the circumstances.  Its like
> > the boy who cried wolf:
> > >you send kids to get killed to show the world how
> > horrible you are treated
> > >enough times, the world doesn't believe when you
> > are really wronged when it
> > >happens or else the world knows how much some of
> > your people value their
> > >children.  The world loses respect.
> > >
> > > > This issue is not  the Jews vs. the Muslims, or
> > the
> > > > Jews vs. the Arabs, or whos land is it, there
> > existed
> > > > Jews years before 1948 all over the middle east,
> > > > especially in Palestine, and the Palestinians
> > where
> > > > not going around killing them.......this is
> > about
> > > > Palestinians living under occupation, if you
> > don't
> > > > know what living under occupation means, then
> > look it
> > > > up, but what it is, is nothing that you would
> > ever
> > > > want yourself and your kids living in...
> > > >
> > >BAF:  Uh, if you recall in 1948 the palestinians
> > were OFFERED HALF OF the
> > >land.  They turned it down.  Whose fault was that? 
> > If you dont' agree they
> > >should have been offered only half, fair enough,
> > but the rest of the world
> > >disagreed.  Since then the israelis have been
> > attacked and attacked and
> > >attacked.  At the end of this email I will post
> > that same history I posted
> > >before, so you can read it.
> > >
> > > > its
> > > > de-humanizing, its degrading, its sickening, and
> > its
> > > > disgusting, its nothing short of living as a
> > slave all
> > > > your life, and then getting old and hopeless and
> > > > seeing your kids and grandkids going through it
> > all
> > > > over again........
> > > >
> > >BAF:No, being a slave is much different than living
> > in a nation of folks of
> > >another nationality.  Erika?  Is living in the UK
> > like being a slave?
> > >
> > >BAF:  And once again I point out that the
> > palestinians turned down the lands
> > >that were to be theirs.
> > >
> > > > It is the right of  every nation and
> > > > people to live free.... but when the
> > Palestinians,
> > > > after more than 50 years of living in
> > occupation,
> > > > revolt against there oppressors,  its fanatics
> > and
> > > > extremist, and animals like the NY POST calls
> > > > them.....
> > > >
> > >BAF:  The Palestinians are opressed becuase of
> > their extremist behavior.
> > >Because of their lack of regard for human life.  If
> > they behaved like
> > >civilized citizens they wouldn't be opressed.
> > >
> > >
> > 
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