>> Would you respect a CEO who said poor me, my employess won't let me do
>> my job? Ergo, if he is not a liar he is incompetent.

That is just inaccurate. Allow me to illustrate. Take unionized companies, 
because they are the best parallel to government. Ford, Chrysler, and GM spent 
decades batling their unions for concessions on wages, benefits, and all sorts 
of other things. The unions had the power to say no to the CEO, and they did. 
The result? Massive losses of jobs and revenue for all three, near bankruptcy 
and eventual buyout for Chrysler. The CEOs of those companies were not 
incompetent, they were hamstrung by the demands of the unions. You can say the 
same thing for the major US airlines today. The unions have screwed these 
corporations for years. Now it is the unions' turn to get screwed, and it's 
their own fault, not the fault of the CEOs. 

>Yup.  If the President is such a wuss that he can't control the CIA
>except by endangering national security then he's even more
>incompetent than I thought.

Apparently you have never been inside the government bureacracies in 
Washington. Most of the people that work in those places are career staffers 
whose jobs are out of the President's control. Take a look at the civil service 
code. 

Only a fool tries to control the bureacracies. A wise leader learns to work 
with them. But even a wise leader can be betrayed. You all conveniently keep 
ignoring the very public betrayal of the President by the CIA. Ignore it if you 
like, but it is part of the story.

>This has nothing to do with a supposed CIA vs The Whitehouse war, nor
>does it have to do with Ms. Plame's alleged "lapse" of ethics (which
>doesn't exist).  It has to do with campaign strategists that are given
>unprecedented power.

Bullshit. Rove's involvement is only one aspect of the story.

>It's irresponsible that Rove drafted Mr. Tenet's "apology" or was in
>the office discussing economic policy with the President.

What Rove does is up to the President, not you or me or anyone else. The 
President has no need of a campaign advisor any longer. If he wants Rove to be 
a policy advisor, that's his choice.

>It's a massive error of judgement on the President's part, and his
>error breeched national security.  This error is an error of
>leadership.  Period.

What EXACTLY was his error? Allowing Rove to be a policy advisor? Hardly an 
impeachable offense given that the President is allowed to choose his own 
advisors. Just because you don't like his choice doesn't make it wrong.

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