> 11 and 12 are just abysmal. Sorry.

Please people don't appologise.  I didn't design these and the person who
did is unlikely to be on this mailing list so I urge people to be blunt and
speak their mind.  I have deliberately avoided telling you what my
preferences are so that you are not influenced in any way.

And please feel free to disagree with each other as well ;-)

Nice comments BTW Paul, a few more like this and I will have some good
material to take into the meetings with me.

--
Jay



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