I have been watching this all day and every day this week http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/yahooPlayer.pl
That direct link might fail and may need to go to their site first. The buses coming before the flood came I only saw in the Governors news conference and honestly I do not fully believe it the more I read around and see no mentioning of it but the Governor of the state is the one who said the mayor was doing that. Also they were saying buses before the hurricane so not to imply between the hurricane and the levee breaking. Water being dropped, I did not see mentionings of it, I watched the video of helicopters doing it. Actually I take that back I think the blog from the data center mentioned it for seeing some dropped off by truck yesterday or today. Food, security, medical supplies and water I watched all make it to the convention center this afternoon and not just a small amount it was a big convoy. Have fun with your debating, I am heading home in the next few minutes. On 9/2/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I still see no mention of water being dropped. Nor anything about buses > going around before the flood trying to evacuate people, was that you > talking about that? Quick reality check: where do you get your news? > I do see that some food has made it to the convention center, finally. > > Dana > > On 9/2/05, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Friday afternoon and a big ass convoy of supplies and troops made it to > > the > > people at the convention center and most of the dome was evacuated at > this > > point plus shortly before this those thousands of people on the freeway > > that > > the helicopters were dropping off and the bad condition people were > being > > relocated with helicopters got a convoy of buses(because prior it was > hard > > for the buses to even get there) to start pulling them out. Does no one > > realize the magnitude of what it takes to evacuate 10s of thousands of > > people or to find and pull them out of "rumble", each bus holds how many > > people? Plus they have been using Amtrak and some flights now that the > > airport has dried out enough to actually be used. It was estimated(as > per > > their local news interview with a professor earlier today) before this > > ever > > happened that maybe 10k people per day could be evacuated from the city > if > > something like this occured yet certain seems that number was passed > when > > I > > watch the local news about amount of people bused in. Levee breaks on > > Tuesday, so what is that 72 hours to get trucks organized, get the > trucks > > loaded, get the troops organized as well and get them loaded and then > > drive > > them there and navigate the rumble to get to the destination and that > > assumes they had not done any of those things prior bet they did or it > > would > > have been more than 72 hours. Prior to the convoy arriving helicopters > > have > > been doing their best to drop supplies as they come in. Their number one > > priority on the first through days was rescue people from the flooded > > areas > > and from watching the news I see an enormous amount of helicopters and > > boats > > working on that task and the buses started I believe 48 hours later. > Plus > > the government already dispatched three ships how many days ago, and > > probably back when everyone probably did not grasp the magnitude of what > > was > > happening. Just like most people in this world, everyone wants to point > a > > damn finger at someone or something specific, christ there are people > > saying > > all day how this is racist and if all those people were more white than > > not > > then it would have happened quicker. It is so easy to sit back and look > at > > anything and think of how it could have been done better, does not > matter > > if > > it is a disaster or just someone else code on a CFM application. The > > bigger > > the job one is looking at, usually the less of the variables they are > > aware > > of and fully take into account. > > > > I almost want to think that the Coast Guard is the only entity involved > in > > this that has done a "great" job. > > > > On 9/2/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It was probably not entirely clear to anyone, the governor, the > > president, > > > or the National Guard, just how bad things were on Monday. It's > getting > > to > > > be Friday evening. What was your excuse again? I see no particular > > reason > > > why the president could not have made a phone call to the Pentagon > after > > > the > > > news broke on Tuesday that the levees had broken. > > > Dana > > > On 9/2/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Matthew wrote: > > > > > Instead of looking just at the Pres to blame for all of it, you > > should > > > > > research what the state government was communicating to the > Federal > > > Gov > > > > > > > > I agree completely. To be clear, this was a failure of gov't on > every > > > > level: city, county, state, and federal. My point is, while I can > > > > understand that maybe the Governor is hamstrung, the President > isn't. > > > > He should be able to cut through all of the red tape; that's the > > > > purpose of his executive authority. > > > > > > > > As to "being him", I don't need to be him to see that the NO relief > is > > > > a major fek up. If I was him, I'd use executive authority to get > > > > troops and supplies in there fast. He's not chose to do that. > > > > > > > > In defense of that decision, it may be because, in reviewing that > > > > option, his people felt the actual aid would get to people just as > > > > fast by messing with nothing. That is, yes the train started slowly, > > > > but it's almost up to speed. > > > > > > > > However, even if that's the case, he's not doing much good as a > > > > symbolic leader either. I don't hear the, "I'm bringing the full > > > > resources of the US government to bear ... blah blah blah" Instead > > > > he's going to tour and has said the effort is "insufficient". That's > > > > not reassuring when you're starving to death. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Flash MX Pro from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=57 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:172439 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
