How can you equate the withholding of the communion with the torture of innocents? Should the church not be allowed to make requirements of those who wants to participate in it? The church also requires that you believe in God. Is that wrong? Dana already corrected you on this matter, but I still take issue with your statement. I don't agree w/ many of the church's stances, but to say that they are acting like the Inquisition seems to be very, very unfair.
On 10/10/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given some of the more recent pronouncements of the congregation, its > not all that far off, for instance members of the congregation did say > that communion should be withheld from politicians who are Roman > Catholic and support abortion rights. > > On 10/10/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hmm. While your statement seems to be literally true it's rather > > inflammatory and kind of a stretch from head of a tribunal to head of the > > inquisition, even if the tribunal did take part in the inquisition five > > hundred years ago. It's about like calling anyone from Massachussetts a > > witch-burner. > > > > Dana > > > > On 10/10/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > The current name for for the Inquisition is the Congregation for the > > > Doctrine of the Faith, see > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith. > > > Ratzinger's title before he was elected pope was the Prefect of the > > > Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. He followed in the > > > footsteps of such luminaries like Torquemada. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > On 10/10/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > modern day inquisition? > > > > > > > > On 10/10/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well wasn't Ratzinger the head of the modern day inquisition before he > > > > > was elected Pope? So of course he's a throwback. > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Well, not always. Talk to Gallileo. Or anyone touched by the > > > > > > Inquisition. The church has gotten better, but I think they still > > > have > > > > > > a ways to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > What has changed is what parts are open for interpretation and > > > > > > non-literal reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a little concerned since the new Pope was put into place > > > > > > as he seems like a throwback to the old ways of dogma and unreason > > > > > > (where I felt John Paul was much more enlightened.) > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if such public statements by respected and powerful > > > religious > > > > > > figures will have any effect on the debate here in the US between > > > > > > fundamentalism and more reasoned versions of Christianity. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Its been like that since the middle ages. Even St. Augustine > > > railed > > > > > > > against biblical literalism. The church has always said that parts > > > are > > > > > > > allegorical. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Saw this on the arch-l mailing list, and thought it worth > > > passing > > > > > along. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a > > > teaching > > > > > > > > document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible > > > are > > > > > not > > > > > > > > actually true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning > > > > > their > > > > > > > > five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the > > > study > > > > > of > > > > > > > > scripture, that they should not expect "total accuracy" from the > > > > > > > > Bible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific > > > accuracy > > > > > or > > > > > > > > complete historical precision," they say in The Gift of > > > Scripture. > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Save $10 Download ZoneAlarm Security Suite http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=66 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:176702 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
