Also, now that I take another look at his own reference it says that this tribunal was formed BECAUSE of the excesses of the Inquisition not as part of them.
Dana On 10/10/05, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How can you equate the withholding of the communion with the torture > of innocents? Should the church not be allowed to make requirements of > those who wants to participate in it? The church also requires that > you believe in God. Is that wrong? Dana already corrected you on this > matter, but I still take issue with your statement. I don't agree w/ > many of the church's stances, but to say that they are acting like the > Inquisition seems to be very, very unfair. > > On 10/10/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Given some of the more recent pronouncements of the congregation, its > > not all that far off, for instance members of the congregation did say > > that communion should be withheld from politicians who are Roman > > Catholic and support abortion rights. > > > > On 10/10/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > hmm. While your statement seems to be literally true it's rather > > > inflammatory and kind of a stretch from head of a tribunal to head of > the > > > inquisition, even if the tribunal did take part in the inquisition > five > > > hundred years ago. It's about like calling anyone from Massachussetts > a > > > witch-burner. > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > On 10/10/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > The current name for for the Inquisition is the Congregation for the > > > > Doctrine of the Faith, see > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congregation_for_the_Doctrine_of_the_Faith. > > > > Ratzinger's title before he was elected pope was the Prefect of the > > > > Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith. He followed in the > > > > footsteps of such luminaries like Torquemada. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > On 10/10/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > modern day inquisition? > > > > > > > > > > On 10/10/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Well wasn't Ratzinger the head of the modern day inquisition > before he > > > > > > was elected Pope? So of course he's a throwback. > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, not always. Talk to Gallileo. Or anyone touched by the > > > > > > > Inquisition. The church has gotten better, but I think they > still > > > > have > > > > > > > a ways to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What has changed is what parts are open for interpretation and > > > > > > > non-literal reflection. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been a little concerned since the new Pope was put into > place > > > > > > > as he seems like a throwback to the old ways of dogma and > unreason > > > > > > > (where I felt John Paul was much more enlightened.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if such public statements by respected and powerful > > > > religious > > > > > > > figures will have any effect on the debate here in the US > between > > > > > > > fundamentalism and more reasoned versions of Christianity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Its been like that since the middle ages. Even St. Augustine > > > > railed > > > > > > > > against biblical literalism. The church has always said that > parts > > > > are > > > > > > > > allegorical. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/9/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Saw this on the arch-l mailing list, and thought it worth > > > > passing > > > > > > along. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Catholic Church no longer swears by truth of the Bible > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a > > > > teaching > > > > > > > > > document instructing the faithful that some parts of the > Bible > > > > are > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > actually true. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are > warning > > > > > > their > > > > > > > > > five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to > the > > > > study > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > scripture, that they should not expect "total accuracy" > from the > > > > > > > > > Bible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific > > > > accuracy > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > complete historical precision," they say in The Gift of > > > > Scripture. > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:176708 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
