well said gary.

Benjamin

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary P. McNeel, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:47 AM
Subject: RE: Ouch


> Larry said...
> "What's next, making being poor a capital offence?"
>
> No, Larry. Making being poor a 'good thing'. They will find a way to spin
> that. You know, the corporations are going to get not just a tax cut, but
> huge rebates from this stimulus package. Let me guess. They will not spend
> that on salaries from the officers and shareholders. No, they will hire
> thousands of people and put them to work making products to sell to...
who?
> I have to ask, did anyone's life get markedly better with the tax refund?
I
> know mine didn't. My utility bill increase will eat that up in no time.
You
> know, it pisses me off that corporations will unabashedly profit hugely
from
> 9/11. These people in government office and corporations today have no
> fucking conscience. Can I say that in here still? I see TV adds showing
> firemen standing on fire trucks, flags galore, and then the add fades to
> Wal-Mart saying "Thanks to all the brave men and women this holiday
> season... and, oh, by the way, shop here." That is pathetic. Couldn't they
> just do something like run the ad with no credit given? No, that would not
> get people into the stores.
>
> I am getting increasingly concerned about the American view of the world.
> The ABM treaty withdrawal is a huge step backwards. Frankly, in my 38
years,
> I cannot say I have been concerned in the least in other countries firing
> ballistic missiles at us. Does anyone think those old missile silos in
> Russia are still active and could "fall into a terrorists hands." The
> systems are complex and prone to failure. Russia is in bad shape.
>
> The scenario will now go like this. Raytheon (or someone) will get
billions
> in defense contracts to build an ABM system. Boeing (or someone) will get
> billions to build a system that can beat it. Then Raytheon will get
billions
> to build a system that can beat that. Ad nauseum. Sure, people are
employed,
> but what does what they build benefit the country? You can't sell it. You
> will never use it. The money could be spent far better on counter
terrorism,
> which is how wars in the future will be waged. How will the ABM system
stop
> a small 'dirty' bomb from making it's way in the back of U-Haul into
> downtown Houston, London or Berlin?
>
> God, these people are so greedy it makes me sick. This Enron debacle is
> amazing. Cheney won't release information about his talks with Kenneth
Lay.
> Imagine that. Let's see, Cheney got about $39 million a year (between he
and
> his wife's stock in Halliburton). I wonder what was said. Kenneth Lay is
> walking away with hundreds of millions. Good Lord Batman, how much money
do
> people need? How does 2 million a year versus 39 million a year increase
> your "real" standard of living? Who looses in this game? Right now about
> 5000 Enron people. More to come.
>
> http://www.enron.com/corp/pressroom/ - just fun reading
>
> http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ENE&d=t - click on insider trading, then
click
> Roster, then click Kenneth Lay. Look at the boards he is on and the latest
> stock trades. What countries have no extradition treaties and governments
> take payoffs? I but ol' Ken knows. Also, check out some of the others. I
> guess there are people out there who would say, "Hey, they were just smart
> guys that used the system." No integrity. But why let that get in the way
of
> the quest for the almighty dollar?
>
> Think about the media for a moment. You have the "movies for the masses"
> that play up the integrity thing. Stallone, Schwarzzenager, Reeves, etc.
in
> the movies about people who do the "right thing". Makes us think that that
> is the way the world is or should be. Then we get to the reality of the
> world. I doubt very much that Lay or Cheney ever watched or subscribed to
> that view of the world.
>
> BTW - Look's like the war on terrorism is really curbing the terror
attacks
> in Israel. NOT. Oh, let me guess, they are in "desperation". No way. They
> will continue forever. There will never be a common ground. That may sound
> negative, I know it does, but I just see no way to smooth over the wounds
> that exist there. 40,000 years has not changed how we think much. We
humans
> posses an incredible capacity for vengeance and hate. Our collective
> memories are long.
>
> -Gary
> Voting for Todd for some other sane tomorrow.
> 
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