Of course they were involved. 16 million people is the current estimate.
My point is IMPACT. The impact of the world on the US was very small by
comparison with European countries and USSR.

btw: I misread you previous post concerning involvment figures. I though you
were refering to the death toll but you were refering to involvement. my
apologies.

Benjamin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 4:55 AM
Subject: Re: Ouch


> So what you are saying is that because the US lost 1.6% that they weren't
> really involved?
>
> Wow, that is an amazing statement.
>
> If you looked lower in the Encarta article you would have read the info
> about casualties.
>
> At 04:37 AM 12/15/2001 +1100, you wrote:
> >Will,
> >
> >Interesting, if you take the earlier reference to people involved in the
war
> >versus those killed you can get an idea of the total cost/involvment in
the
> >war for those countries. here are some rough estimates... I've only
included
> >USSR, US and Germany because I could only find reference to the total
people
> >involved (not be be confused with killed) for these countries...
> >
> >USSR 30 million involved:
> >66 % were killed approx.
> >
> >Germany 17 million involved :
> >32% were killed approx.
> >
> >US 16 million involved :
> >1.6% approx.
> >
> >These figures give an good assessment of involvment in WW2.
> >Russia was definately the hardest hit by a long way. US almost doesn't
> >register if you look at the complete lists. It's like saying of every 100
> >American's directly involved in the war only 1 or 2 out of these were
> >killed. Contrast that will the USSR and it's 60 out of every 100 people.
> >Russia also involved twice as many people as the US based on these
figures
> >so you could reduce the US involvement even further. In other words, if
the
> >US had involved as many people as Russia (30 million) then less than 0.5%
of
> >those involved would have died (or 1 in 200 people).
> >
> >This really strikes me because just imagine what a PROFOUND cultural
impact
> >that must have had on Russians (and the rest of Europe). When this post
of
> >WW2 casualties started I was afraid it must be insensitive to discuss
> >countries death tolls so dispassionately. Having spent a little time on
it
> >however, it becomes critically clear what a massive impact that must have
> >had. And what little involvement the US really had by comparison. We must
> >consider these immense figures if we are to personally discuss the events
of
> >the twentieth century with any seriousness.  They were massive loses and
for
> >those countries involved would have had earth shattering consequences.
> >
> >Benjamin
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 3:04 AM
> >Subject: RE: Ouch
> >
> >
> > > surely death tolls would be a more accurate way of assessing a
countries
> > > involvement?
> > >
> > > will
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 14 December 2001 15:50
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Ouch
> > >
> > >
> > > MS Encarta, what would your figures be?
> > >
> > > At 02:45 AM 12/15/2001 +1100, you wrote:
> > > >where the hell did you get those figures.. you are way off
> > > >
> > > >"... in reality".... give me a break
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 1:32 AM
> > > >Subject: RE: Ouch
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, in reality, It was USSR with around 20 Million troops, then
> > > Germany
> > > > > with 17 Million, then the US with 16 Million, British Empire was
next
> > > with
> > > > > a little over 8 million, then Japan,  and China with 6-7 Million
each.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am not only talking about the European side only. I am also
talking
> > > >about
> > > > > the Pacific side as well.
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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