call it hubris. If it succeeds and schools do not then imnsho opinion this is a strong indication as to which methd is flawed. You know what they mean when they ask for parental involvement? They mean that you are supposed to tell your children that yes, the teacher is right, and you never will get into college unless you put a tail on your w and make the crossbar on your t go all the way across. Rubbish and I won't tell my kid otherwise, sorry. Sit down and shut up do not constitue an education no matter how easy it makes the teacher's life. You want to know why Ritalin is over-prescribed? Classroom size. So now that is has been demonstrated that I am not doing irreparable harm to my children by taking them out of the system, I am doing irreparable harm to the system by taking them out ;) More rubbish. I won't accept responsibility for a system unless I can change it. It is always a bad idea to do so unless you also have the authority to make necessary changes, and please note, schools want parental involvement, not input. Dana
On 10/27/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're right and you're wrong. Schools do dread parental involvment. But > that's because parent's get involved in the wrong things. Parents didn't > get > involved in teaching their children the requisite discipline that is > required to focus learning. Parents didn't get involved in supporting the > curriculum and the teacher's role. But parents DID get involved in blaming > the school and teachers when their undisciplined child was failing, and > instead of hearing that their child needed to be a better student they > instead blame the teacher as failing in their role. But when a teacher > tried > in any way to actually make the students sit down, shut up, pay attention > and actually learn, well by golly that was seen as abusive and mean and > then > the parents get involved again saying the school has no right to try and > teach their kids discipline. > > So now we end up with exactly the system you hate. A system hobbled by the > very parents who complain that their kids don't learn anything. And then > many of those parents send their kids to expensive private schools where > the > school does have the authority to instill discipline. And because the > school > has the right to kick the kid out if they feel their authority is > undermined, and because the education is finally hitting the parents in > the > pocketbook, the parents finally now support the teachers and the authority > that previously they undermined. > > And then there's the parents with the near hubris to think that as a > single > individual they have breadth and depth of knowledge to teach the same > thing > that takes the combined knowledge resources of 20-30 or more teachers for > a > given student. And of course, those homeschoolers end up needing to > instill > the same discipline for education that they refused the public schools. > > And no, the above isn't speculation. I saw it first hand with a parent who > was a public educator. > > Feh! > > On 10/27/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The schools constantly whine about parental involvement. They are > > affronted > > when it materializes. They don't *want* involved parents... they want > > guilty > > parents. I am sure that offended a lot of people out there, but I get > the > > impression that not a lot of your have personal experience with the > issue, > > and that's mine. This was true of both good and bad schools in several > > states. > > Bottom line, schools are fiefdoms that have managed to convince the > > general > > public that giving them money will be good for children. > > > > Dana > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Protect your mail server with built in anti-virus protection. It's not only good for you, it's good for everybody. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=39 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:178661 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
