> -----Original Message-----
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 11:05 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: ID as Myth
> 
> >
> > This is exactly why I think that ID should be considered only from a
> > scientific standpoint.  All "scientific" ID propositions have been
> > successfully challenged and all that's left is untestable
> scientifically.
> >
> > If they're asking for this to be treated like science then do so.  By
> that
> > standard it doesn't cut the mustard.
> >
> 
> It's the flying spaghetti monster all over again. Why apply science
> standards to something that isn't even in the realm of science?

Simply because they are demanding that it be treated as such.
 
Scientists, as a body, should not, ever, be unwilling to test a hypothesis.
That's not what science is about.

Intelligent Design proponents should be forced to devise tests, perform
experiments and allow peer review of their conclusions just as anybody else.

To dismiss any idea out of hand, without proper testing, is simply insulting
to science.

At the same time, of course, ID should, like any other scientific idea, do
all of this BEFORE the subject of its being included in curricula is raised.

Scientifically (as they want to be considered) no hypothesis would be
included in high-school curricula at this stage.  There are thousands of
theories which much more evidence that are still considered to "new" to be
included.  ID is no different from a purely scientific viewpoint.

If testing proves out the notions of the theory then, yes include it.  If
not don't.  Science, as a whole, asks for nothing more or less.

> "Thank you, but your ideas are not scientifically testable."

And right there you've applied scientific standards to the debate.  ;^)

The simple fact is that the IDers have placed this debate squarely on the
scientists "home court" and the scientists are not pressing that advantage
as far as I can see.

Jim Davis




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