Sam, there is little question that the Bush administration is torturing
people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/03/AR2005120301476.html

Saying it does not advocate torture may be true in some tortured legalistic
sense of "advocate" and "torture" but we are all speaking plainly here so
let's stick to that.

Dana



I'm not going to bother reading all of those but will say McCain's
> bill bans torture unless there's a ticking bomb or something like
> that. WTF, makes as much sense as his campaign finance law.
>


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