for me it comes down to this. imagine a classroom setting where you have 25 kids. there is a group of 10 of them that are very well behaved children that need no reprimanding, are quite intelligent, always listen to the teacher and do not have to be moved to the front of the room. there are 5 of them that come from very low income families, however they are very well behaved as well and need none of the reprimanding, need not be moved to the front of the room, but need the protection of the group of 10 because the group of 10 includes the strongest boy in the class (the united states). then there is another group of 5. these five are somewhat disruptive in class, but really just need attention and are not getting it at home, but really do not have the wherewithall to beat any of the other kids up, they just need to be moved to the front of the class because every once in a while they cause trouble, but are basically harmless. (pakistan, russia, china, india, israel and others)
and then there are the last 5. these five are bullies, the are from broken homes, they are hungry for power in the classroom, they do not listen to the teacher. they have seats at the front of the class for everyone to see. they have special procedures for going to the next, and from the previous class. they are always in the principals office for their short tempers and lack of any solid upbringing. they can shoot off at the mouth and fight any kid at any time for seemingly no reason whatsoever. the teacher (the common good of the world) knows that all of them started off with good intentions. the teacher knows that the group of 10 (nato, united nations, and other sensible countries) are not driven by any need for attention or anything else, they are driven by the will to succeed, and therefore are really no problem. they will never bring a gun to school, they will never disrupt "the class" (the world) but if they needed to, they could protect the under-priveleged 5, and the other "need attention" 5. however, the teacher really worries about the final 5 (iran, north korea and some others) and what they "might" do, as a result of their horrible upbringing. so the teach does not allow them to have pencils, scissors (nukes) for fear that at any point in time they might just lose their cool and for no apparent reason start beating up the rest of the kids just because they thought it was time to do so, or were just scared and retaliated due to that percieved scare. its really not this simple, but i think that this makes more sense when you break it down like this, and think about it like a big group of kids in school. some of them should get pencils and scissors and other sharp objects, and others shouldnt. its just a fact of humanity. tony On 12/11/05, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why not use the folks in Cuba, or Venezuela as an example of countries > being demonised because they dare to tread a different path? The US > supported a coup against an elected government in Venezuela because > they don't like Chavez's expressed policy of pulling away from > Dependence on the United States and seeking to empower Latin American > countries. No one really knows what his plans are, who knows he may > turn into some crazy dictator that seeks to attack and control > everything around him...but that's not what is happening now. > > India and Pakistan have the bomb *now*, they didn't several years ago. > Since getting the bomb their relations with the US and the West has > improved amazingly in a very short space of time. > > THe US would prefer Israel not have Nukes? > GUFFAW! > Who gave them the technology?? > > Another response said that Israel never signed any treaties. Fair > enough, so what if Iran wants to pull out of the treaty the way > America has pulled out of several Treaties since the Bush > Administration. Why are they under any obligations? > > And the US is best buddies with China. Look at the extraordinary > volume of Trade and commerce being done with that country. No > Sanctions there, no sir-ee. And where is the violation of human rights > greatest? China or Cuba? > > don't talk about Hypocrisy. > > On 12/10/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Right, all those folks in China, North Korea and Iran just love being > > imprisoned and tortured for their beliefs. If by "nation", you mean > > "religious despot" and "madman dictator" and "commie thugs", then fine, I > > can see what you mean. Of course those people don't want to give up their > > positions of power. But that doesn't make it right. Are you blind to that? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:187272 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
